Controversial Topic of the Week

Anybody whose is derogatory about the twelve has obviously never sailed one. My boat is thirty years old and, although it may not be able to win me our national championship, it is responsive and deceptively fast when sailed properly.it was also dirt cheap. As a first boat you cannot get more value for money than a second hand twelve as they are able to sail to (modified) handicap very well and give you the opportunity to beat up on lasers fireflys enterprises etc. in most conditions and even faster asymmetric boats under good helmsmanship. They are as already said particularly effective in restricted conditions, however, come to their own on a broad reach where, as most of your body retreats behind the boat, they feel incredible.

Another advantage is the absolutely awesome members association whom are all ready to provide advice, if not sometimes contradictory. i bought my boat the day before an open at my club and was able to have it in sailable condition before the first race with help from other crews.

And it is an overexagerrated myth that you have to weigh less than two cats to sial one. I am not saying you can weigh 30stone betwen you but different designs cater for up to 24stone crews whom are able to remain competitive.

and as for previous comments regarding our discussions on changes....we are a development class therefore aim to develop!!!

the other thing to take into account is the asymmetrics will be limited to the clubs that are big enough to take them so the smaller clubs will have slower more traditional classes,and as there are a lot more smaller clubs than big ones they will always have slower boats.

Really? Asymmetrics aren't exactly new but count the number of asymmetric classes in the top 20 of http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/classes/?s=44

yer and i think you will find the fast asymmetrics become unpoular as they are good fun for a year or two but then you grow up and wish you had 10-15 boats that are the same for good fleet racing so they will not last that long prpard to boats like the laser or N12

imnot saying they are all going to disaper tomerow but they will not last as long as the boats with good racing ie laser rs200 N12 ect

this is what i think