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Rossiter Pintail Mortagne sur Gironde, near Bordeaux |
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Laser 28 - Excellent example of this great design Hamble le rice |
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Guest ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 21 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
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Proportionally I'd expect that the newer classes are more active. Old classes have a huge install base and if the nationals is promoted many of the occasional sailors wheel their boats out for the nationals. Rick |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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I see from the Chifed page its 80kg and *coremat*. Yuk! That would make it see as if a low initial price tag is seen as a much higher priority than performance, but one wonders what longevity will be like.
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Sumo ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 144 |
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Also significant on the page was the likely price and competitors: Should be at the January Boatshow …and available for delivery next season, - comparing to £5795 29er, £6250 420, and £4495 Vago (this is polyethylene). This is really about market share, i.e. RS competing with Ovinington and Laser, rather than a gap in the market! |
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Iain C ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1113 |
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Looking at the pix it's pretty obvious that this is a direct competitor for the Vago. People interested in buying this type of boat will not be worried about hull material...in fact just give them the relevant sales spin depending on which product you are selling. I would also say that it's up against the Xenon, which, as the Topper demo chap pointed out to me the other day, does have trapeze points on the mast although no wires as yet. Kitbags at dawn gentlemen! May the best boat win, and that could be anyone's guess. When the two competing keelboats (K6 and SB3) came out I much, much preferred the look of the K6, but look what happened! Let battle commence! |
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RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed"
Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs" Enterprise GBR21970 Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra" |
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Alex C ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 18 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 108 |
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'The Buzz is hardly the most modern hull shape, the rig is nothing special, and, most to the point, RS don't sell it!' I agree completely with the last point. However the supposed design criteria is: 'Yardstick of around 1000, - stable enough for the "August sailors", and buoyant enough for Dad to enjoy...' I don't understand what a more modern hull shape would bring, more stability than a Buzz? it can't be much faster since the yardstick is to be around 1000? And excluding building materials and having been designed recently, what exactly defines a more 'modern' hull shape? Rig wise it doesn't sound like RS are intending to use a carbon mast..... I'd like to think that RS will make use of recent design developments (whatever they are)to design a significantly better boat which as argued earlier will allow british sailing to further develop. Rather than build a boat that is similar to many and further saturate market, and use the RS brand name as a selling point. Incidentally I used to have a Buzz, have done a couple of seasons in an 800 and have a 600. As I probably appear to be defending the Buzz a little too much! I'm sure the V3000 fits a similar sort of criteria.
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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Very different boats really. K6 is less than half the weight of the SB3 and roughly two-thirds the sail area. Put them in the middle of the Solent and they look pretty tiny. The SB3 strikes me as a better proposition for Solent racing. |
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Isis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Sep 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2753 |
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I personaly think it looks terrible!
Im hoping this is all a big hoax or publicity stunt because I see the RS image crumbling by the minute... |
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les5269 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Oct 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1530 |
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It is pretty awful isn't it Looks slow too Edited by les5269 |
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49er 531 & 5000 5025 and a mirror(now gone to mirror heaven)!
Grafham water Sailing Club The greatest inland sailing in the country |
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carshalton fc ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337 |
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in fact the vago looks better!! that just looks like a pimped up feva!!
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CurlyBen ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Aug 05 Location: Southampton Online Status: Offline Posts: 539 |
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Not my thing... Anyone reckon the fluorescent patches are trying to imitate the 49er?
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