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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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To clarify, this was a response to the OP and other comments made:
To break it down:
1) Should an RO give warning if boats are over the line prior to the start? - No unless you are doing a training exercise
2) If such a signal is 'normal' practice (and the RO is not obligated to tell a boat they are OCS) and then is not shown for whatever reason can an RO score a boat OCS? Yes they could but they leave themselves open to protests/redress claims from compeititors who will claim they were not OCS as such a warning was not shown.
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Stuart O ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Jul 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 514 |
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Having attended several RO seminars over the last 2-3 years the RYA are keen (where??) to adopt this practise... the argument being that the X-flag is only activated by the sound signals that are required by the rules. The justification is that ROs are there to be competitor friendly
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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There is being competitor friendly and making a rod for your own back! we have enough issues getting ROs to do duties for our own club racing because they are worried about the complexity of it currently let alone if they added something else for them to do....
I do agree that in club racing there may be a friendly shout of 'Bob you were over' accompanied by the appropriate flag and sound signal.
Beyond that it is difficult, especially as fleet sizes grow, to achieve this. The RYA are in danger of having a 2 tier starting system if they are not careful, this could cause issues to people who are learning and get used to having a warning so they dont need to worry about it who then attend a bigger event where they won't get this 'friendly' reminder.
IMO if the RYA want to change this they should propose rule changes to the ISAF so we have a level field.
I usually have a safety nearby at the start and if someone is over I ask them to mosey on over and let them know before they get too far away (if it is practical and safe to do so).
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r2d2 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 29 Sep 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 350 |
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+1,
I wouldn't want to see this extra complexity for officials or competitors, or the arguments that will inevitably arise about whether it was or wasn't properly applied On a lighter note, have a look at the start shown in this video from 2.20 to 2.50 |
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