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    Posted: 17 May 05 at 1:05pm

And that's your choice.

You have had an experience where a QR hook would make you feel safer but I have never seen or heard of anyone I know who has been endagered by a harness. I have, however seen and heard of lots of instances where a sailor has been injured/hospitalised because of a knock to the head by a boom (I do sail a Contender remember ), does that mean that every sailor should wear crash helmets?

Where would it end? In a lot of money being spent, a lot of freedom being lost and the sport I love being regulated like F1... yawn.



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Just had the experience and thought it could happen again quite easily just due to the way I always go forward on the boat after righting. It wasn't a freak thing and that's what had me thinking. Just a little bit more money for being a bit safer plus it's not going to affect the way I sail. And if I had been not so lucky,it would have been very serious, the weight of the whole boat acting downwards on me with my hook firmly locked into the shroud and my bouancy forcing me back upwards to that force. I don't like to think of the consequences.......



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Black no sugar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 05 at 2:37pm

I don't want to gate crash your conversation, but have you had a close look at those QR hooks? Contender443 bought a new harness at the Dinghy Show and received his brand new spreader bar, complete with safety hook, last week. (He would tell you himself, but he's working hard... bless...)

Of course, the first thing we did was to take the whole thing apart, to see how it worked. It took him 5 or 6 goes to release the hook. It's not easy ! I imagine when your life's in danger, you're likely to pull much harder

However, you still need to keep a cool head to locate the bit of string that will pull the pin that will lose the hook that will release you  

Oh, and a tip: when you receive your new hook system, you might feel the unstoppable urge to give it a good tug .. Make sure you've got nowhere to go fast, 'cos putting it together again is.... fun, fun, fun!!!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote 49erGBR735HSC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 05 at 3:38pm

I'm going for the Magic marine one because it has no plastic, seems the simplest and is the cheapest. I'd end up destroying something plastic.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Black no sugar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 05 at 6:27pm
That's the one he's got!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mike278 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 05 at 7:46pm
I've only had one experiance of a quick release trapeze harness (a sea sure not a magic marine), and the hook fell off before I even got on the water, which gave me so much confidance in it . Now i use a normal hook, tied on so you can pull 2 bits of rope and the the entire spreader bar comes off.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Matt Jackson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 05 at 8:37pm
I'm not critisizing anyone for buying a QR harness - my next one will be as well, but I beleive it should be my choice afterall the one I'd like to go for is the bethwaite system but it probably won't be legal under the present wording.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote maxim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 05 at 9:32pm
I agree, I think the need for a QR harness may vary
hugely from boat to boat. Whilst crewing a 420, I
really don't feel that I should ever need one. Now, I'm
not overlly experienced in the really high
performance boats, but I'm sure that perhaps for
some other classes, a QR system maybe much
more sensible...
But for ISAF to introduce a blanket rule, without taking
into account the many different levels and variations
of harness risk, is slightly annoying...
[just an opinion!!]
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Post Options Post Options   Quote HelenF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 May 05 at 1:42pm
Just to flag up that Y&Y will be doing a special feature on trapeze
harnesses in the December 2 issue, in time to iron out the implications of
any new ruling before it comes into force in 2006. We'll also be taking a
look at quick release systems and innovations on the market.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 49erGBR735HSC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 May 05 at 3:09pm
I've heard good stories about the RWO QR system. Apparently you can release the hook during a tack and put it back into place coming out the otherside of the tack, if you're caught out on the wire, which I'm sure we've all done before.
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