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    Posted: 11 Jun 08 at 8:35pm

Thanks for the replies so far. I think the mark rounding was "over" and "completed". We were setting off upwind back to the line.

Not sure about just before the mark. I think we came at the mark from different angles and the other boat was on the inside at the mark.

Brian

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Originally posted by Scooby_simon

Originally posted by G.R.F

As far as the rules go again
without the little boats and drawings to look at, it sounds like your were
overtaking boat, and rounding a mark, so you had a duty to keep clear,
however once both boats are established on their "normal" course, then
windward boat would I apply I guess, however, not a lot of folk appreciate
what happens when the boat apparently ahead of and below them starts
to point seemingly higher for no apparent reason (lee bow effect, look it
up) they then whine and start accusations of sailing above proper course
luffing etc etc.


 


Remind which rule talks about "overtaking boat"?




I wasn't actually referring to "rules", this is clearly a case of
misunderstanding a tactical situation and the guy wants to apologise. It's
typical of bad sailors scrabbling to use "rules" when they feel under
pressure and dont understand the situation.

By the sound of it both those boats were rounding into a header anyway
which wold have given the leeward boat an advantage which he later took.

Rounding a mark you have a duty not to ram the boat in front and in any
case ramming into folk only impedes you own progress, better to dive
under them fast then harden up and crank on a lee bow and if you're
lucky enough for there to be a header occurring as did, then all the
better.

Isn't the guys request couched more in terms of conciliation rather than
arbitration?

Like I said, maybe I read it wrong.

Folk who win stuff do the best they can at all times to avoid rule issues,
they are a vexation to the spirit and bring in an uncertainty to the
outcome beyond your control - always better to avoid them.
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Originally posted by G.R.F

Originally posted by Scooby_simon

Originally posted by G.R.F

As far as the rules go again
without the little boats and drawings to look at, it sounds like your were
overtaking boat, and rounding a mark, so you had a duty to keep clear,
however once both boats are established on their "normal" course, then
windward boat would I apply I guess, however, not a lot of folk appreciate
what happens when the boat apparently ahead of and below them starts
to point seemingly higher for no apparent reason (lee bow effect, look it
up) they then whine and start accusations of sailing above proper course
luffing etc etc.


 


Remind which rule talks about "overtaking boat"?

 


It's typical of bad sailors scrabbling to use "rules" when they feel under
pressure and dont understand the situation.

 

Who are you suggesting is a bad sailor?  

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