N12 PY

   Hi all,

I thas come up at our club that we need to look at N12 py numbers as a committee. One of our sailors has just purchased a very new double bottomed boat and we are all fairly confident that it sails faster than 1093 and he is consistently winning throughout the wind ranges by significcant margins.
We were thinking of giving him a py of 1080 which we believe would be fairer, does anybody so this at their club?
Thanks Adam

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Adam MR 1137 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 10 Feb 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 114	Post Options Post Reply Quote Adam MR 1137 Report Post Quote Reply Topic: N12 PY Posted: 02 Jun 08 at 8:41am
	Hi all, I thas come up at our club that we need to look at N12 py numbers as a committee. One of our sailors has just purchased a very new double bottomed boat and we are all fairly confident that it sails faster than 1093 and he is consistently winning throughout the wind ranges by significcant margins. We were thinking of giving him a py of 1080 which we believe would be fairer, does anybody so this at their club? Thanks Adam
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tgruitt Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Dec 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2479	Post Options Post Reply Quote tgruitt Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Jun 08 at 9:19am
	Can you give us the age or sail number of the boat. This would give us more of an idea to offer advice.
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Adam MR 1137 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 10 Feb 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 114	Post Options Post Reply Quote Adam MR 1137 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Jun 08 at 9:24am
	Hi, Sorry should have added it, the number is between 3460 and 3470 cant remember the last digit?! Thanks Adam
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	Is he/she the best (or one of the best) sailor at the club?

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	On a river like yours a N12 will excel against other types of boat. The N12's as a class have good returns so the yardstick will be pretty accurate. I'd suggest you all buy some N12's and enjoy going as fast as he is.
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Guest Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 21 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guest Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Jun 08 at 10:11am
	I'd agree that the N12 PY is about right. We did quite a bit of racing in our club h'cap and got what I would have considered a fair result in 3490. You can adjust PY's for local conditions and you should do that as long as you are not just personaly handicapping the best sailor.

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	Thanks for the advice, Rick I see your point and understand we must be carefull not to punish his good sailing, He is one of the better sailors at the club yes, so I agree with you we dont want to personally handicap him. I think it just seems to be that the N12 excels with this sort of river sailing as said by jack, so we may need to adjust it slightly to suit our local conditions, while being carefull not to give a personal handicap (challenging). Thanks Adam
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Guest Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 21 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guest Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Jun 08 at 10:34am
	Seems you have the right idea; perhaps ask him what he'd consider fair. No doubt he dosn't want to win all the time and would relish a better challenge.