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Stuart O ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Jul 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 514 |
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Fast impractical gear! so the widespread use of carbon fibre doesn't count. But Chris you miss the point THAT IS WHAT THE IOC WANT, the profile of the F1 hence my analagy. But every Olympic campaign starts with a dream...A hero to worship...the poster of that fast boat on the wall And it maybe true in your neck of the world, and having watched your own 'touring car' series with interest I would say its a vital marketing tool as it is certainly over here. If not why are manufacturers spending millions of £s developing state of the art racing machines with their names on in F1, world rally and touring cars. Motorsport is one of the growing spectator sports and has an annual audience in the millions. By the way Kart racing has seen a 700% increase in paticpants this past year...I wonder if the latest F1 hero Lewis hamilton has anything to do with that...under your rules NO but I wonder........... Edited by Stuart O |
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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I didn't say carbon was impractical. However, for the average sailor the sort of high-speed gear like big fast cats, skiffs, windsurfers oriented to strong winds etc are impractical - so we shouldn't try to promote the sport as being something the average sailor cannot ever aspire to.
And let's go to the source to find out what the IOC wants. They decided in 2002 to "systematically review the composition of the sports programme after each edition of the Olympic Games to ensure that its composition continues to be relevant and meet the expectations of future sporting generations. After that, the Olympic Programme Commission, in collaboration with the International Federations, defined 33 criteria to be used as the basis of the evaluation questionnaire." The post-Athens report is at http://www.olympic.org/uk/news/olympic_news/full_story_uk.as p?id=1349 It does point out that sailing got low TV and spectator rankings. However, it ALSO points out that sailing is low in participation and international spread. The spectacular boats are much lower in terms of participation and spread than the cheaper ones, even among Olympic classes. It seems that many jumping up and down about the low TV and spectator numbers and saying this must be fixed by putting in more fast boats, even though not a single person has ever proven that fast boats do in fact get more TV and spectators as far as I can see, once other factors are allowed for ie the GP Skiffs got good ratings but that programme was paid for by the sponsors. Leadmines sometimes get good ratings and they are not quick for their size. And many of the same people are ignoring the fact that the IOC also criticises sailing for low participation, which is best cured by cheaper slower boats - a demonstrable fact easily shown by looking at class reports which prove that simple slow boats are much more popular and sailed in many more countries. THE IOC WANTS SAILING TO BE MORE WIDESPREAD AND POPULAR AND SLOW BOATS ARE MORE WIDESPREAD AND POPULAR - SO WHY DUMP SLOW BOATS IN THE HOPE THAT FAST BOATS GET MORE VIEWERS? Just saying "the IOC wants more tv= more fast boats" as some people are, is ignoring the other issues that the IOC points out, and that are pushing Olympic sailing the other way. Moving the sport towards fast boats in the hope that it will get more TV will mean we lose the slow boats that are proven to be more widespread and popular, which is what the IOC wants. Sure, every Olympic campaign starts with a dream - are you saying that slow Lasers and 470 inspire fewer Olympic aspirants? Obviously they don't, because more people campaign in the slower boats. Did Ainslie and Shirley not inspire sailors? If medals in the fast boats are so inspirational, why isn't the world flooded with Finnish 49er sailors and Austrians on Tornadoes? We have done well in the fastest Olympic class for many years, and we have one crew campaigning in them. How is that evidence that fast boats inspire sailors? If our V8 series is such a good marketing tool TO GET PEOPLE INTO THE SPORT AND GROW THE SPORT, then why is car racing no more popular than sailing here in terms of participants? (source; Sweeny and ABS). Many F1 champs (Hakkinen, Schuey etc) come from carts, it's not exactly as if Lewis was the first so it's hard to see why a growth in karts is due to him. BTW carbon was first significantly used in IOR boats, 505s and FDs which were all closely restricted classes. Edited by Chris 249 |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6661 |
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Grief, that takes a lot of reading. I just printed out the sailing, canoeing and rowing reports and compared them side by side. Its interesting to note that compared to rowing and canoing sailing is cheaper to run and has far better "new media" appeal. I suspect the sport needs to concentrate on new media more than television. The major weakness looks to be in world wide participation, especially in emerging countries, notably Africa. I really don't think that expensive spectacular boats are going to help with that. It looks as if the Lasers and 470s are the key classes to concentrate on. |
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Stuart O ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Jul 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 514 |
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Chris I made the point this year!!!!!! |
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Worthy ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 511 |
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Not sure if you guys have seen this, but here are some video reactions taken at the A-Class worlds.
http://www.sailing-tv.tv/ Some of the other footage is great too. |
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