New Posts New Posts RSS Feed: What Olympic Class has too go
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

What Olympic Class has too go

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 121314
Author
Rupert View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 11 Aug 04
Location: Whitefriars sc
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 8956
Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: What Olympic Class has too go
    Posted: 09 Nov 07 at 3:36pm
Now cat sailing isn't an Olympic sport, we should see a huge surge in popularity? After all, it has often been said that being in the Olympics kills a class - does the same hold true for a whole section of the sport? Or will we suddenly see Women's match racing at every club across the land?
Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
Back to Top
kanga View Drop Down
Far too distracted from work
Far too distracted from work


Joined: 09 Oct 07
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 248
Post Options Post Options   Quote kanga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Nov 07 at 3:48pm

women's match racing is bigger than you think at the moment but until today, the rya hasnt supported it that much either. it organises a few series but over the world, wimen'smatch racing has been being promoted heavily, and i think its a justified discipline! however, i don't like the fact they ditched the cats, stupid idea. one men's single hander is enough. i dont see another woman's single hander for the tiny girls - they have to learn another boat to compete at that level!

Back to Top
DiscoBall View Drop Down
Far too distracted from work
Far too distracted from work


Joined: 03 Jan 05
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 305
Post Options Post Options   Quote DiscoBall Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Nov 07 at 12:06pm
Originally posted by Chris 249

Yes, and compared to every other country, the British have "too many classes", including many of the minor local classes that many people in other countries would like to kill.

You guys also seem to have many slow (or slowish) boats as well as many fast ones; you often sail on (to use an American's term) "damp sponges"; and your fleet tends to include lots of small boats. Oh, and mixed fleet racing.

And it all works incredibly well. Many things would only work because of the UK's geography, but the huge success of dinghy sailing in the UK seems to prove that many of the things that people traditionally think are important (concentration into a few classes, lots of big fast boats sailing on open waters, concentration on class racing) are complete rubbish.

What a pity the ISAF doesn't seem to want to look at the proven success of dinghy sailing in the UK and try to learn from it.


Yes, according to the accepted wisdom the UK sailing scene should be a 'basket case'....

Certainly part of it is down to geography - though it wouldn't be much different for most other european countries - however trying to support a country wide open circuit in somewhere the size of the US or Aus...!

I suspect it's also down to the more intangible things - that really competitive sailing is less about finding out who's best and more a good background for people to socialise, which is perhaps a healthier approach.  Certainly the socials seem to have higher prominence in the UK - the 'quick meal and the everybody goes home after an hour' was something of a shock at the french events I've attended...

The number of classes allows lots of people to have a day on the podium (and the Endeavour results would infer that the standard of sailing is quite consistent across the top of the range of classes) which has a feelgood factor that being just another number on a huge ranking list doesn't.

The other thing I wonder is if the classes are more representative of an optimum size for a social group (bit of cod anthropology here...).  That forcing everybody into one or two huge classes makes everything too impersonal??

I don't think we have all the answers - sailing is certainly diminishing in the UK, but it would be interesting to know whether it's at a slower rate to countries that run a stricter system.
Back to Top
JimC View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 17 May 04
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6662
Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Nov 07 at 12:15pm
I suspect that beyond a certain age if people can't sail a boat they like a substantial percentage don't sail at all. Thus the many classes help support the general sailing infrastructure by keeping up participation.
Back to Top
Worthy View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 07 Dec 05
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 511
Post Options Post Options   Quote Worthy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Nov 07 at 12:41pm
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 121314

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Bulletin Board Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 9.665y
Copyright ©2001-2010 Web Wiz
Change your personal settings, or read our privacy policy