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| Bruce Roberts classic 45 Valencia, Spain | 
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| Tornado_ALIVE   Really should get out more     Joined: 07 Nov 04 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 611 |  Post Options  Quote  Reply  Topic: How fast???? Posted: 02 Dec 04 at 6:28am | 
| I guess with the Europeans not growing up with skiffs (as us Aussies know them) They have a different view of what a skiff is. For me, a skiff is not a design but a boat (when it comes to sail powered skiffs) As Chris pointed out, a die hard Skiffie would be insulted if you called a B14, 29er, 49er ect a skiff........ In OZ (home of the skiff) anyway 
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| jimmywalsh2   Newbie   Joined: 08 Oct 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 18 |  Post Options  Quote  Reply  Posted: 02 Dec 04 at 10:30pm | 
| Having thought about what constitutes a skiff it is more a type of boat rather than a concrete definition. The following criteria comes to mind 1. Freedom of design - the less rules the better 2. Freedom of rigs 3. Use of the latest technology - carbon etc 4. A challenge to sail 5. Significant speed advantage of similar length boats. So some boats may fit the definition when they are built but after a few years fall behind. | |
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| Blobby   Really should get out more     Joined: 07 May 04 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 779 |  Post Options  Quote  Reply  Posted: 03 Dec 04 at 12:37am | 
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   That basically writes off any one design class then...how does it fit with the 16's and 18's having one design hulls?
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| Stefan Lloyd   Really should get out more   Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |  Post Options  Quote  Reply  Posted: 03 Dec 04 at 2:18pm | 
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 That could be a keelboat. Open 60? Mini-Transat? 
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| JimR   Newbie     Joined: 25 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 23 |  Post Options  Quote  Reply  Posted: 03 Dec 04 at 3:13pm | 
| ..........even some cats, ORMA 60 trimarans? It seems as though we are struggling to define "skiff" in the UK simply because the word has been over-used to describe any modern lighweight, low freeboard planing dinghy. The manufacturers have been quick to encourage this because "skiff" has become a buzz word for something modern and sexy, the lastest "must have". Aussie skiffs are something a lot more specific. In Australia the term excludes all kinds of modern machinery that we would loosely term as a skiff. I guess Tornado_ALIVE has hit it on the head. 
 
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