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    Posted: 13 Feb 07 at 10:35am
Originally posted by Scooby_simon

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Originally posted by jpbuzz591

england couldn't beat any tri-nations team and i think they wales match will be a close one if they dont sort themselves out, and PB we only really scraped through the Italy match


We scraped through the Italy match because we were lowered to their standard of play and they actually played a very tight game with their strong forwards and made it very hard for us to play an expansive game.  But a win's a win and I think if we played against a better side we could easily up our game...


 

Thing is, a world class side imposes the game they want to play.  You've hit the nail on the head here, we were not good enough to play the game we wanted to play and had to play the game Italy would let us play.  The post match interviews withe the English players backed this up.  Italy imposed the game they wanted to play on us.   



Fair point.



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Originally posted by Prince Buster

Originally posted by Scooby_simon

Originally posted by Prince Buster

Originally posted by jpbuzz591

england couldn't beat any tri-nations team and i think they wales match will be a close one if they dont sort themselves out, and PB we only really scraped through the Italy match


We scraped through the Italy match because we were lowered to their standard of play and they actually played a very tight game with their strong forwards and made it very hard for us to play an expansive game.  But a win's a win and I think if we played against a better side we could easily up our game...


 

Thing is, a world class side imposes the game they want to play.  You've hit the nail on the head here, we were not good enough to play the game we wanted to play and had to play the game Italy would let us play.  The post match interviews withe the English players backed this up.  Italy imposed the game they wanted to play on us.   



Fair point.



Did you just call Italy a world class side????!

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Over here we adjust our our icebreaker racing schedule to take account of the matches. It was heartbreaking for the Irish but if France hadn't taken their foot off the pedal at 13-3 to allow Ireland to get back in the game, it mightn't have even been close!

England are great (and I do mean great) when they are going forward. This relies on a huge pack to give the half-backs time and options. When they are not almighty in the front eight they have to think and play much faster. Not much has changed in the past few years. We are not good at producing and utilising quick ball.

Ireland are going to be hopping mad after the France game and I fear the worst for England's match at Croke Park. Not for the first time I may become the loneliest man in Ireland!
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