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    Posted: 10 Feb 17 at 5:17pm
See, I knew it iGRF, you can talk some sense sometimes if you really want to. Hug

BTW. I'm with you on the tide on the lee bow thing, whatever the maths says it does work, well it does for me when I employ it and the others don't and it ain't superior skill because at least half are faster than me.
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Agree on reading everything, especially start to win. Twiname's early death was a huge loss to the sport.
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Posts: 84 		Post Options Post Options   Quote AlanH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 17 at 3:34pm
Agree on Sail to Win being a great book, which has been re issued recently. Another one which I liked a lot when I read it in 70s was Ian Proctor- Sailing Strategy- Wind and Current. Its also been re issued- has anyone read it and what do you think of it?
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

Originally posted by RS400atC

That covers sailing irrelevant obsolete dog boats as well as irrelevant new dog boats

FTFY  Tongue

Good point though (I assume you mean it in the sense of sailing a working example of a proven class rather than a GRF "anything wooden, more than 20 mins old, weighing more than your wetsuit or I don't like it" sort of way).



when short membry syndrome strikes peopel forget the boats that either didn;t sell or lost out in a competition  ( Parker 404  anyone  or any of the other designs that lost out to the 405 in the mid90s 'intermediate' youth double hander trials)
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Posts: 267 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Oinks Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 17 at 3:54pm
This is Racing by Richard Creagh-Osborne was a great book. Covered all aspects of a sailboat race, easy to digest and good (for the time) graphics.
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Posts: 437 		Post Options Post Options   Quote zippyRN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 17 at 4:10pm
Originally posted by Chris 249

Eric Twiname is the one true god, and Start to Win in the one true bible.

I've often thought it would be interesting to get into a boat and lock off everything but the tiller and three strings and then race it hard. So perhaps concentrating 90%+ on the tiller, crew weight, sheets and mainsail twist controller (ie traveller or vang) would give the best results. Obviously if the wind has kicked .in 15 knots more then you may grab some cunningham etc, but the point is not to worry whether it's been pulled down 3" or 5", but instead to just trim and hike through each gust more efficiently.

and books like Twiname  or  various other texts  that have stood the test of time  are  still useful , as they  get  tweaked and edited  to take account of rule changes but the  basics haven't changed 

'perfect is the enemy of good'   is something to remember  when talking about performing a skill ...  you have to reach a point where  perfect delivery  of  a particualr part of the skill  become counter productive in that is  distracts from other things.
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Sounds like ET's mode switching from 'fast sailing' mode to 'machine minding' mode and back. The former being 100% concentration on boat speed, the latter being 'automatic helming' losing maybe 5% while you to look around and make choices?
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Posts: 437 		Post Options Post Options   Quote zippyRN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 17 at 4:58pm
Originally posted by Steve411

Originally posted by jeffers

Originally posted by davidyacht

For mixed fleet handicap racing buy a boat that points, it gives you all options off the start line.


Or know your opposition so you know who you can start to windward of and not get stuffed over. Traffic management in a mixed fleet is always key especially in a slower boat.

Good point. I know all the people in my fleet and in handicap races at my club - who starts well, who points high, who luffs downwind etc.


in a mixed fleet where you know to a degree  the competitors you  can have a plan to take account of that ...  there is precisiely no point in trying to  start immediately to windward of something like a national 12 or merlin  that is known for  it;s ability to  point and  keep going ...  

but if you can outpoint someone else  let them start to windward of you as long as you can get outthe trap  in a timely manner they will soon find thems  squeezed out ...
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