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    Posted: 16 Feb 17 at 11:32am
Good point, I guess as you fall further behind you also fall into cleaner wind ;) so "last is fast?"
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As with capitalism, it's much easier once you are ahead. It's actually easier in some ways to be in the top 3 in a championship fleet than it is to be in the middle, and certainly much more pleasant.
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

Good point, I guess as you fall further behind you also fall into cleaner wind ;) so "last is fast?"

I'll remember that excuse next time I come last. Tongue
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

Good point, I guess as you fall further behind you also fall into cleaner wind ;) so "last is fast?"


Almost certainly Particularly in gusty offshore wind, or down our lake when it's iffy and they're all sat in a hole at the bottom mark and you still being further upwind get a lovely gust and sail right up to and through them..
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Perhaps due to my choice of boats in the past and the waters they've been sailed on, I've become pretty good at getting boat speed. Upwind I can shoot the shifts and oscillations and generally can make places up upwind. My biggest weakness is downwind. Now on small inland venues this is less of a problem due to short legs forcing the route to the next mark, and at tidal venues you tend to find one or possibly two lanes, but on medium/large lakes I start losing the plot. I observed this painfully at the Grad nationals where I was almost always ahead of the eventual winners at the windward mark, but downwind they spotted the pressure often sailing way off the rhum line to get there and then stay in it, only to then pop up infront of everyone at the leeward mark. It's easy to see this as a boat speed advantage but in reality it's simply down to positioning, and clearly many of the fleet, me included either can't see the optimum course to steer to stay in pressure or we are just too nervous of ballsing it up and dropping even further down the running order. It's certainly an area I will be focusing on this year meaning I might have to get to some other venues.
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Interesting point about downwind sailing, again - not necessarily from the front of the fleet, but like iGRF I was a keen windsurfer, and my 505 crew was an Army Champ kitesurfer. On the waves at a big sea course, we would certainly overtake several boats just by working the boat and the waves downwind.  But my woeful tacking in a sea going upwind often undid all the good we'd made up!! So yes, get yer rig right, get your tacks polished and work the boat downwind, don't just go from A-B, and then avoid the capsizes, weed and other bits that can make life interesting and hope you get a bit of luck - and there you are -easy peasy!! 
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