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    Posted: 19 Dec 16 at 7:47am
Presumably he was all over the Danish version? No excuse not to mention him in the international bit, or get facts wrong.

Nor were Mills and Clark on the team of the year shortlist, when the rowers were.

I would complain about Murray winning again, but actually, he has had a pretty damn fine year, achieving stuff both in the Olympics and out, and being world number 1.

Rupertson spotted Nicky in the crowd, but we didn't see Winging It.
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Presumably no BBC coverage of Elvstrom ... so not interested. SPOTY is only interested in BBC covered sports or events ... hence Tennis and the Olympics, saves money to pay for the Genting Arena.  Andy deserved to win but why did they not recognise Nick Skelton's horse?
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Rupert,
As you know, one of my 'other jobs' is to write the more detailed obituaries when the occasion demands - last year it was Greg Gregory and 'Big Bev' Moss, this year Paul E. We're lucky in that Mark Jardine is happy to carry articles that are more of a retrospective than the more classical obit, but elsewhere there is, I am afraid to say, very little appetite for including obits. Two, no three Christmas' ago, just up the road from me here on the Island, Bill McCutcheon died. Now I knew Bill a tad and was happy to write something up for him but I had 'no takers' - not even the local press wanted to carry a look at the life and times of a real gentlemen and classic boatbuilder.

This issue will get worse, as the headliners from that golden generation of early post war championship sailing reach their own finish lines - but don't expect these passings to be given anything more than a paragraph or two (if we're lucky).

With respect to Paul, as I tried to gently point out in the obituary carried on this website, his greatest fame stemmed from a time that was not one but two generations past.. My guess is that if you polled many of the younger sailors of today they'd know Elvstrom as a name from the past, but not someone that they see has any relevance to the sailing world of today. However, that doesn't make right the ignorance shown by so much of the media, a shameful overlooking of someone with such a great record.

As well as writing the obituary for Y&Y.com, I did a number of others. But when a major print publication  asks for an obituary for someone of the stature of Paul and gives you a maximum word count of 300 words, you know that the battle is lost!

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Originally posted by Dougaldog

Rupert,
As you know, one of my 'other jobs' is to write the more detailed obituaries when the occasion demands - last year it was Greg Gregory and 'Big Bev' Moss, this year Paul E. We're lucky in that Mark Jardine is happy to carry articles that are more of a retrospective than the more classical obit, but elsewhere there is, I am afraid to say, very little appetite for including obits. Two, no three Christmas' ago, just up the road from me here on the Island, Bill McCutcheon died. Now I knew Bill a tad and was happy to write something up for him but I had 'no takers' - not even the local press wanted to carry a look at the life and times of a real gentlemen and classic boatbuilder.

This issue will get worse, as the headliners from that golden generation of early post war championship sailing reach their own finish lines - but don't expect these passings to be given anything more than a paragraph or two (if we're lucky).

With respect to Paul, as I tried to gently point out in the obituary carried on this website, his greatest fame stemmed from a time that was not one but two generations past.. My guess is that if you polled many of the younger sailors of today they'd know Elvstrom as a name from the past, but not someone that they see has any relevance to the sailing world of today. However, that doesn't make right the ignorance shown by so much of the media, a shameful overlooking of someone with such a great record.

As well as writing the obituary for Y&Y.com, I did a number of others. But when a major print publication  asks for an obituary for someone of the stature of Paul and gives you a maximum word count of 300 words, you know that the battle is lost!

Cheers

Dougal
Very eloquently put.

There were two books in my youth that really fired me up:  Robin Stevenson's When Dinghies Delight and Elvstrom speaks.  Worth a read as it still gives me the same joy 40 years on.  Gone, but not forgotten.
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Curiously of all papers the mail printed one. Was surprised when Google threw that up.
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Jaydub, When dinghies delight- good choice. Read it as a yoof then found a signed copy in Hay on Wye some years ago.
Just taken it off the bookshelf for a Christmas read. Thanks for the reminder.
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Jaydub, When dinghies delight- good choice. Read it as a yoof then found a signed copy in Hay on Wye some years ago.
Just taken it off the bookshelf for a Christmas read. Thanks for the reminder.
And "Marks to Starboard"
 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote jaydub Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Dec 16 at 8:58pm
Originally posted by davidyacht

Originally posted by cad99uk

Jaydub, When dinghies delight- good choice. Read it as a yoof then found a signed copy in Hay on Wye some years ago.
Just taken it off the bookshelf for a Christmas read. Thanks for the reminder.
And "Marks to Starboard"
There was a third one as well, on 14s IIRC.  They were all in my local library at the time.  I liked them so much, I considered accidentally losing them. ;)

Howard republished "When Dinghies Delight" a few years back, so I at least I have an honest copy of one of them.
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There was a short obituary and picture in the 'i'.
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I've just realised there ought to be a link somewhere in this discussion, for the benefit of future readers:

http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/193648/Sailings-Greatest
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