Irons.. WTF is the physics of it?

I've been having a similar discussion with a mate who bought a Musto last year and is still 'learning' to sail it. He's been advised to get out on the wire faster to prevent irons (a major problem for him). I guess the FB sail is the main culprit for the MPS's dodgy behaviour (added to sailor incompetence). I haven't sailed his MPS yet (but I will give it a go when the conditions are right) but had similar issues single handing the Spice last weekend (we have a very informal attitude to handicapping and few serious racers so I was allowed). Saturday's race, 1-6 knots, I won by nearly a minute (corrected time) from the very competent young Radial sailor (I was always known as a light wind specialist on the NWWA Raceboard series, nice to know I still have it on occasion), Sunday, F4 ish, it all went 'Pete Tong' with irons and a capsize on the first tack and another on the second beat. I know it was because I was being tentative (long weekend with a late night playing in the 'Band on the Beach' on Saturday) and, had I not been unfit and pre-knackered I might have done ok in that one too but I doubt 'Radial Boy' would have succumbed.....

Edited by Sam.Spoons - 05 Sep 16 at 12:19pm

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Sam.Spoons Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam.Spoons Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Irons.. WTF is the physics of it? Posted: 05 Sep 16 at 12:15pm
	I've been having a similar discussion with a mate who bought a Musto last year and is still 'learning' to sail it. He's been advised to get out on the wire faster to prevent irons (a major problem for him). I guess the FB sail is the main culprit for the MPS's dodgy behaviour (added to sailor incompetence). I haven't sailed his MPS yet (but I will give it a go when the conditions are right) but had similar issues single handing the Spice last weekend (we have a very informal attitude to handicapping and few serious racers so I was allowed). Saturday's race, 1-6 knots, I won by nearly a minute (corrected time) from the very competent young Radial sailor (I was always known as a light wind specialist on the NWWA Raceboard series, nice to know I still have it on occasion), Sunday, F4 ish, it all went 'Pete Tong' with irons and a capsize on the first tack and another on the second beat. I know it was because I was being tentative (long weekend with a late night playing in the 'Band on the Beach' on Saturday) and, had I not been unfit and pre-knackered I might have done ok in that one too but I doubt 'Radial Boy' would have succumbed..... Edited by Sam.Spoons - 05 Sep 16 at 12:19pm

iGRF Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499	Post Options Post Reply Quote iGRF Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 05 Sep 16 at 3:28pm
	I had a Musto, it was my first boat and I taught myself to dinghy sail in it, (don't ask, somebody loaned it to me), I struggled with going into irons in anything above 10 kts windspeed and decided it was a design flaw and eventually gave the boat back before I broke it. I wonder if I tried it now I know a bit more, like the Blaze another bastoral irons dweller for me, wether messing with the kicker off, going through the tack might help and more commitment to chucking myself out the front side harder as I go through thus using the hull to assist the bear off. But at the end of the day it's still weight and lack f it which defines the issue for me.
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	It's weight in the wrong place, get forward on most single handers and go into the tack with speed and it will be fine
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