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    Posted: 10 Nov 14 at 6:32pm
Well I sail in Dublin Bay and if I can't take her out in more than a F5, then the amount of time I get to spend in the boat is radically reduced, at least in the Winter. I absolutely mean a F6. We are lucky enough to have two very reliable sources of real-time windspeed in Dublin Bay. The first is a twitter feed from a weather buoy:

https://twitter.com/DublinBayBuoy

The second is from an anemometer on the harbour wall:

http://www.dlhweather.com/current-details/

Apart from anything else, I'd like to improve as a skiff sailor, and, for me at least, part of that means being able to handle the 600 in a blow. I'm used to handling Laser 2s, Vagos, Fireballs and Laser in 20 knots+, and I'm really just wondering if something like the 600 can be sailed in those kinds of winds.
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A 'proper' skiff sailor would be using a Number 3 rig- in singlehanded trapeze boat terms, that means a nice flat cut radial sail on the right platform- a Farr 3.7 :-)
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In a proper F6 drop the stump out, roll the foot of the sail up and off you go. You should be able to hang on to that up to about 30mph.
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Originally posted by dohertpk

What I really struggle with in 20knots+ is getting stuck in irons. I sail in a harbour with a lot of leadmine traffic - it can be very nerve wracking to find yourself going backwards while a fleet of yachts bears down on top of you.

Since you've got a specific handling issue, are you starting to tackle it by asking specific questions to 600 sailors (ie what are the specifics about the way they handle this situation - for example have they found that the vang setting is critical in this situation?) and then setting specific times to practice on the specific problem? Even when I was learning the Laser I had days when I stuck it in every high-wind open-water gybe, until I rang up my brother (ex national Laser team sailor) who spotted the problem over the phone and cured it straight away.

Good on you for not wanting to monopolise the rescue boat, but can't you make an arrangement with them to go out earlier or later on days when the wind is right, so that you can just concentrate specifically on your own problem and solve it while they keep an eye on you? In this sort of boat, being committed can really, really count and that's hard when you have your understandable concerns about leadmines and rescue boats. 

It sounds like you're trying to learn boathandling in a race, which is problematic in this sort of boat (or at least, problematic in the International Canoe which is the only comparable thing I've sailed). The family was away when I bought my Canoe, so for two weeks I just went out sailing every day on a small uncrowded waterway after work and fell into until I could handle it. 

As others have noted, from a historical viewpoint and perhaps from a design viewpoint as well, the whole "one-rig skiff" idea is an aberration. A one-rig skiff misses out on the thing that historically 
made skiff sailing practical for the typical club sailor, which is the ability to change down from the big rig. 


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Chris; these are all excellent insights, thank you. I'll put a note on the 600 forum. I actually haven't entered her in a single race yet. Our club sails tend to just consist of pottering around in the harbour or outside in the bay. I spend most of my time practising tacks - as far as I'm concerned, Saturday afternoons are for tacking! 
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