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    Posted: 15 Jan 13 at 2:27pm
Originally posted by rogerd

Originally posted by Timmus

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8
21
54
156
376
394
470
476
613
661
773
1249
1285
1287
1323
1784
1960
2011
2025
2027
2111
2117
2123
2124
2128
2175

Recognize any of these sail numbers???
Or you could check here for further details.
http://events.sailracer.org/eventsites/entries-multi.asp?eventid=51516

When the fotoboat pics are out you may recognise them and then you can name and shame
 
As my number is on that list as are a couple more I know weren't there, I think we can say it's very innacurate. I think it's probably a list of series entries?
 
In any case, this forum is not the place for Name and Shame - at least not without first going through the Protest Room. In my experience sailing amongst the Youths at 29er Inlands etc (75 boats), the standard of rule observance is very high. They at least know most of the rules whereas many of the older sailors out there seem to revel in their lack of knowledge of mostrules.
 
Well done Queen Mary - fantastic job to cope with so many boats, competitors and spectators.
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Sorry-I dont get it. What does this list of sail numbers refer to?
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Potential rule breaking 29ers. I think that list is all the 29ers who have entered a sail juice event

Edited by Stevie_GTI - 15 Jan 13 at 6:18pm
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Oh, so it was only 29ers that were causing problems? I thought that the race was pretty chaotic and when I looked at the results I struggled to work out how boats that had started after us finished in front of us, and I never saw them during the racing. Now I might have missed them, or we might have sailed the wrong course ( too long!) or they might have sailed the wrong course ( too short!), but I find it all a bit confusing, but then I'm getting old and easily confused!
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One guy was complaining that he'd been fouled by a 29er.

Lets face it its probably difficult to sail the BM without the odd rule breach. Can you imagine the protest hearing on a mrk rounding with 70 boats overlapped...

Whilst the incident as described sound fairly black and white, if, for instance, you've been shut out at the last two marks in spite of having right of way your sporting instinct as regards doing turns if you barely clipped a shroud may be somewhat atrophied... I may not condone it, but I find it very easy to understand...

Edited by JimC - 15 Jan 13 at 7:20pm
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Originally posted by JimC

One guy was complaining that he'd been fouled by a 29er.

Lets face it its probably difficult to sail the BM without the odd rule breach. Can you imagine the protest hearing on a mrk rounding with 70 boats overlapped...

Whilst the incident as described sound fairly black and white, if, for instance, you've been shut out at the last two marks in spite of having right of way your sporting instinct as regards doing turns if you barely clipped a shroud may be somewhat atrophied... I may not condone it, but I find it very easy to understand...


Don't incidents usually sound 'black and white' when you only hear one side?

If there really are 70 boats at a mark, all different, you would have to have great spatial perception to be sure you'd obeyed the rules totally. I'm sure we've all had the odd moment which we're not proud of but don't think it's actually our fault?
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Bloody Mary = Emperor's New Clothes
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Will Loy has just posted four videos he took of the BM on You Tube. Search on "Virtual Rigger Bloody Mary"
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The FotoBoat pictures are online too
http://fotoboat.thirdlight.com/viewcontainer.tlx?containerid=14943111765&home=1
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