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    Posted: 20 Oct 12 at 1:44pm
Has anyone seen a fast pin break? I have in the past used both the Ronstan type with the steel ring pull and the blue ones with the central button, and never brocken them but I wondered if they were safe or a problem waiting to happen.(i have managed to bend some regular rigging pins recently and wondered if the fast pin could have taken that load)
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I can't really think of a reason why the Ronstan ones should be significantly stronger or weaker than the conventional design. After all if its the same thickness of the same grade of stainless steel...
I'm not familiar with the others.
Really I think you just need to go up a size...
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You cant really go up a size as you couldn't get a thicker pin through the hole in the shroud adjuster. My thinking was that if the solid pins bent, the fast pins must be weaker as they are not solid due to the internal mechanism. Thus they could be suspect ( but if no one has ever seen them go, I shouldn't really waste my time worrying about them!)
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Fast pins have been almost standard practice in Fireballs for years. I've never seen one bend or break. The internally machined part of the pin is outside the loaded area when installed so it's no different to a normal pin.

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The only issue I've ever had with fast pins has been a metric/imperial mismatch where the pins are slightly smaller diameter than the hole so they can fall out.
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I had one pull out on one side and bend that chain plate thing, lucky I spotted it before we went out.

It's such an archaic system I can't believe it's still used in the twenty-first century.
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given all the other bits of rigging a boat up; Do fast pins really save much time?  some of the split rings designs can be removed really quickly and it doesn't really take more than 20 seconds to change the position
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Oatsandbeans Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 12 at 8:01pm
Thanks for all the info. I quite like the fast pins, dropping one of those little circular wire things in the sand at 10 minutes to go stresses me out (especially with my poor eyesight) so I'll probably keep using them.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote winging it Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 12 at 8:16pm
Originally posted by Neptune

given all the other bits of rigging a boat up; Do fast pins really save much time?  some of the split rings designs can be removed really quickly and it doesn't really take more than 20 seconds to change the position


If you want to change mast rake on the water between races a fast pin is much easier and less risky. We would use fine cord to tie ours to the chain plate so we couldn't lose them.  Never had one break or fail.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 12 at 8:30pm
Originally posted by Oatsandbeans

... you couldn't get a thicker pin through the hole in the shroud adjuster.

Well yes, you do have to go up a size as well on those too:-)
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