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    Posted: 19 Sep 11 at 9:38am
So, top of my league has always been Bewl, but now racing up there to a close second is Broadstairs, as condescending an experience as ever one might expect from club officers viewing the proceedings from on high at the Man of Kent recently.

My boat being out of action and no chance of getting it fixed on Saturday, my totally cissy crew substitute allowed me to cry off with a warning of 'force 6 and rain all day' only to be greeted by perfect conditions, sun and 2-3 so I visited the scene to watch.

Upon arrival they were on the water, there appeared to be a race crew way up in a box above some old fish murdering gallows establishment which involved a ladder, so not really a place to enter uninvited.

The course was displayed on boards below which made about as much sense as course boards generally do, there were three separate diagrams and there appeared to be three different events, just as I'm watching a chap starts to descend the ladder, so I ask 'which race are they on? Winston Churchill replies with his familiar victory signal, not a word.

I look at the 2nd map it just calls out buoys a,b,c not any indication of how many laps, so I could judge what leg they were on, er 'how many laps?' '45 minutes' the surly cove begrudgingly replies then turns on his heel to shamble off in his blue wellies to consort with another stripy jumpered result of brother and sisterly love.

I look up at the rest of the race team, ignorance, pure down their nose ignorance, and you wonder why...

Broadstairs, I've never raced there don't think I ever will now, the lads seemed to enjoy what looked like a great event and all the on the water stuff seemed to be going swimmingly, guns blazing star shells into the early autumn sunshine, late tourists taking the sun, lots of interest in all those boats out there, no one any the wiser as to what's going on.

Well it's a secret see, only the privileged get to sail...  If only they knew the truth eh?


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Ripped from here http://drrickschaefer5.blog.com/tag/career-advice/ but widely found in different versions...

...a man who moves into a new town, and proceeds to ask the local sage what kind of people live there.

The sage asks, “What kind of people lived in your last town?”

The man answers, “Dishonest people; cheats and liars, and really unfriendly.”

The sage answers, “We have the same kind of people here.”

A second man moves into town and asks the sage the same question, “What kind of people will I find in this town?”

The sage asks the second man, “What kind of people lived in your last town?”

The second man answers, “Wonderful people; helpful, kind and loving.”

The sage now answers, “That is the kind of people you will find in this town as well.”


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Graeme is much less abrasive in real life than online. Having now done a fair bit of traveling, I've experienced the odd club like he describes- not necessarily the big "commercial" ones. Some clubs do have a problem with their attitude towards visitors (sailing and otherwise) and even potential new members.
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Arriving in the midlands courtesy of a work relocation, I approached Draycote to find out about joining as returner to the sport.

I had intended to buy a Lark- lots of cheap fun for the recently graduated, only to be told 'we don't sail those here' by the office staff. Needless to say I didn't bother joining. As I also figured there was no where big enough to justify the cost of getting back in to the sport (ex-coastal sailor with a typical misplaced aversion to other little ponds around this part) and didn't bother buying the Lark either (shame, nice boats imo, but too old now to get the best out of them!).

I eventually joined two years later when I set my sights a little lower on the boat evolutionary scale and stupidly bought another knee wrecker- as this was 'allowed' at Draycote...

What did I discover... oh yes, there's a handicap fleet and yes, my prospective Lark would have been very welcome had I just spoken to someone else. Ironically years ago, the club had a very strong fleet of Larks and even had a Lark National Champion- I think he's still using the same spraytop!!!

Is it a snotty club... no, not really- is has it's quirks and petty squabbles like so many. But like a lot of clubs often accused of being snotty, it's just down to catching someone on a bad day.

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I've got to stand up for Broadstairs and say that on the several occassions I've been there for open meetings they've come across as one of the friendliest and least 'snooty' sailing clubs out there. A bit quirky compared to some bigger clubs, but I think you have to expect that if you venture into darkest Kent.
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Don't get me wrong, I dare say there are some 'reasonable' types in fact my guess they were all out on the water putting on what looked like a great event (I'm really p1ssed that I missed it, light shifty winds and tide, I'd have loved that, instead I had the bread knife and daughter in tow they were equally impressed - not),  it's just the whole way the sailing world is so often disinterested in the interested observer or passer by, as far as he was concerned I was just some punter on a day trip asking stupid questions and I didn't press the point, knowing what a pain in the neck it can be if you are a recorder or whatever it was they were doing up that ladder.(I do hope they were recorders and not just spectators)
However it don't alter the fact they come across wrong and they are now No 2 in my Snooty Clubs list, I don't even get that sort of crap from Hayling, or Parkstone where every stupid question I might have asked has at least been answered civilly and the person happy to spend a little of his her time of day with the query.
Broadstairs are a bunch of handicap bandits anyway imv so that incident did nothing to enamour me any further with them.. They shall forthwith be the butt of malicious jokes about sail snobs any time I feel like it.. They're worse than Whitstabewle and that's going some.. Wink



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Grumpf at least someone spoke to you. I went to a lake club in the SW and I was ignored by just about everyone there. I have since learnt that I wasnt the only one who is treated this way.
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Originally posted by rogerd

Grumpf at least someone spoke to you. I went to a lake club in the SW and I was ignored by just about everyone there. I have since learnt that I wasnt the only one who is treated this way.


what do you expect Roger- surrounded by some of the best coastline this god-forsaken island has to offer and they choose to sail on a pond!!!

stay off the moor...



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Originally posted by rogerd

Grumpf at least someone spoke to you.

Yeah but he didn't he just stuck two fingers up (to indicate race 2 I guess) I had to ask the 2nd question as he walked away. Confused


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Salcombe Y.C... If you happen to be sailing in Salcombe week with a wife a baby in tow, and you think it might be nice to have drink after the racing the the club. Don't bother, unless you want to spend a little more time away from your family. As I was aggressively told, with a wagging finger pointing to a sign. Absolutely NO children in the yacht club. It's out side for you. What a great club, I always make a bee line for there bar to spend my cash now, every time I'm down that way.
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