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    Posted: 21 Mar 11 at 10:45am
Hi all,

I am nearly finished removing the paint off my heron, there isn't much to fix on it so I am looking for a guide or help on how to paint the boat again.  I am okay with the varnished areas, I am just not understanding all these different paints and tins that are out there.

Do I just need to do the following steps?

Antifouling - required coats
undercoat - required coats
top coat - required coats

If so, what names of tins am I looking at please?

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You won't need antifouling. That's only for boats which are kept on moorings.

The first thing you need to do is decide which type of paint you're going to use. Basically you have the choice of "traditional" non-polyurethane, one-pot polyurethane or two-pack polyurethane. Do you know which type was used originally?
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You don't want antofouling unless it lives on a mooring.

You almost certainly don't want to use two pot on a boat of some age, and definitely not if there is the slightest trace of original paint.

So IMHO you should be looking at single pot polyurethane. Blakes and International have some pretty good guides on their websites.

I'd always used International, but have been using Blakes recently because International dropped the colour I use from their range and when I had a query I was mightily impressed with Blakes tech support.

International (www.yachtpaint.com)you want "Toplac", Blakes (now Hempel www.hempel.com) you want "Brilliant Enamel". The latter uses a combined primer undercoat which would be a saving in the number of tins required.

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Thank you both, the boat was built in 1963, as for the coats that was on it, it had about 8 coats on it (the person just kept painting over old), i do not know what was used in the past but I know it has an anti fouling coat on it.

The boat will be on its trailer, it will only go in the water when I want to use it.  

With the "Brilliant Enamel", do you mean that I can just put that straight on with no undercoat? I don't mind getting an undercoat and topcoat as I want to make it look really nice and don't mind the extra work.
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Originally posted by doomie22

With the "Brilliant Enamel", do you mean that I can just put that straight on with no undercoat?

No, its a combined undercoat and primer, so you still need an undercoat, but not a separate primer. I guess I'd probably put on two coats of the undercoat/primer and sand the first one back pretty heavily. Its handy because it means you can sand back heavily for a better finish without worrying about going back to wood on the high spots on the first coat.
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I have picked my top coat colour from blakes/hempel billiant enamel range (going for Rhapsody Blue), I am now just looking at the undercoats/primers of the same comany.

What does everyone recommend on the primer as I have found the boat primer and an epoxy primer?

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I think you want the normal (non-epoxy) primer/undercoat

http://marinestore.co.uk/HA5141X.html
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With the Brilliant enamel range, do you do two or more coats or is it just a one coat paint?

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see how it goes.  Count on 2. 2 will be better

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Post Options Post Options   Quote tickler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Mar 11 at 7:44pm
I have painted many boats. I use Hammerite Garage Door paint (smooth) apply it with  a brush and  roll it off with a short pile mini roller intended for gloss paint.
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