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    Posted: 16 Dec 10 at 2:41pm
Line length varies, light wind = longer lines = more area in sky to 'sign' the kite which develops more power plus wind is supposedly stronger higher up.

Medium length =30m and short = 20m

Lots of folk going to take it up next year, suddenly round the cans is all the rage.
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Originally posted by motayotty

The key has to be the kite is up in the stronger breeze.  Forget the drag at water level and get the clear and stronger wind.  This has to apply on all points of sail.
 Upwind as long as the kite board can offer enough lateral resistance and the kite is capable of pointing( not sure how this would be described in kite terms) it will perform to the maximium available tolerances.  Same as the foilers the kite sailors have the chance to oscilate the kite to keep it moving through the air at its designed speed and keep the same level of power. For the foiler that is heating it to the corect degree down wind.  Wind strength changes, change the size/design of the rig as the 12's and 18's do.
If you could get the kite high enough..............the sky's the limit? 
 
Not quite, the longer lines required cause drag which slows the kite down. The fastest kite buggiers are now going for shorter lines to reduce drag and increase speeds. There will be a line length that offers the best compromise and I would suggest it wouldnt be much longer than they currently use.
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Originally posted by mattmd

Im sure a fleet of 50 kites, and a cock up at a mark would be very interesting  LOL
 
You mean like this?
 
 
 
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Im sure a fleet of 50 kites, and a cock up at a mark would be very interesting  LOL
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Think of all the time the kites would loose untangling their strings when rafting up at the leeward mark - could a fleet of 50 kites surfers race together in the sort of format dinghies do?
 
Impressive speed, but I'm sure a powerboat would be faster if speed is all it is about?
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Originally posted by Scooby_simon

W Question for the kite sailors; How well do they go up wind in proper wind?

Er even faster I fear and long beyond the range of those other two boats. (They just use smaller kit and shorter lines)
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Would have been interesting to see a Tornado or Nacra 20c in the mix as well.
 
Rematch is 20kts as well please.  Question for the kite sailors; How well do they go up wind in proper wind?
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I couldnt make my mind up about that video, just made the 49er look like a kids boat not much footage of it either. Love all 3 methods of getting across the water but didnt think it was very just. 
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Before opening the thread, I thought GRF was trying to work out what boat to buy next. 
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Before watching that, i thought the boats would just have it upwind because of their pointing and lose it all down wind.. 49er looked like it was stopped and i don't think a 18fter would of faired any better!
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