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narc 
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 Topic: 29erXS- how cool?Posted: 03 Mar 10 at 12:08pm |
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The 29er doesn't have loads of sail and is a lightweights boat already - I'm not sure a mini rig is really needed?
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JimC
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Posted: 03 Mar 10 at 12:21pm |
This thread? http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6 497 I'm not a great fan of these different sized rigs. Better to match rig and hull to my mind, otherwise you end up with out of proportion nastiness like the Laser 4.7. But getting younger sailors back into two handers is surely a good thing, and trapeze boats for the 11-14 age group have a long history in Australia. Edited by JimC |
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ellistine
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Posted: 03 Mar 10 at 12:27pm |
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I reckon kids think that trapeze boats 'are like soo kewl'.
The ones at our club certainly thought our Vago was cool but I supposed when you've been sailing a Topper for you entire young life... |
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Medway Maniac
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Posted: 03 Mar 10 at 1:44pm |
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I'm not sure whether putting on a smaller rig will address most kids' (people's!) basic problem with the 29er - the lack of inherent stability in the hull. I could imagine that taking away the steadying (damping) effect of the bigger rig might make the boat more twitchy. Certainly that's been my observation when e.g. people have reefed their L2k's - the difference betwen the gusts and lulls is still a problem. The only time it would certainly help would be if you were consistently overpowered in steady winds, but that's not the problem I saw our juniors having when they were starting out in 29ers. |
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Slippery Jim
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Posted: 03 Mar 10 at 1:49pm |
Oops! can opened, worms everywhere... (Quote) |
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Pass the skiff, man!
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rs405
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Posted: 03 Mar 10 at 2:10pm |
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It looks like they are filling the gap left by the Hobie 405s demise. Lightweights, asymetric, small sails and very twitchy! Probably a market for it. That said it is probably just another hash together job like the 29erXX! |
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Rupert
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Posted: 03 Mar 10 at 2:19pm |
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Any pictures?
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Medway Maniac
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Posted: 03 Mar 10 at 2:19pm |
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For sure, I wouldn't want to sail an XS in light airs, with its reduced sail area/wetted area ratio. The 29er is not exactly a flier in the light stuff already, and even a featherweight crew won't compensate for lack of sail area. Won't feel very cool when the Wayfarers, Kestrels and Ents start gliding past... |
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Skiffybob
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Posted: 03 Mar 10 at 2:29pm |
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I think it's a great idea. As you say, it's kool and doesn't look like a kid's boat, and when they get bigger or more experienced, simply get them a new rig. You'll then start to get 2nd-hand XS rigs coming onto the market, which will enable parents to buy a cheap used 29er, and a used XS rig, so getting their kids on the water without breaking the bank. A well thought-out idea if you ask me. One which gets my vote. |
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Jack Sparrow
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Posted: 03 Mar 10 at 4:11pm |
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We do love to buy into a BRAND in the UK. Don't we .......Baarrr! Baaar!
To be honest I'm uncomfortable with how the brand extension of the 29er could affect other boats. All at minimum risk for the 29er. |
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