Carbon top mast for Laser Radial

   Anyone know what is going on, my wife sails a Radial but at 52kgs she is abit light in a breeze and I figure this will be good for her.
Will it use the same sail (I hope so as she's just brought a new one)!!!
Rick

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Guest Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 21 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guest Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Carbon top mast for Laser Radial Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 6:34pm
	Anyone know what is going on, my wife sails a Radial but at 52kgs she is abit light in a breeze and I figure this will be good for her. Will it use the same sail (I hope so as she's just brought a new one)!!! Rick

KnightMare Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1682	Post Options Post Reply Quote KnightMare Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 6:46pm
	What different properties does that carbon one have?

Spot192 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 28 Nov 04 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 833	Post Options Post Reply Quote Spot192 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 6:56pm
	a friend of mine sailed at travemunde and after four races he had to quit, because his carbon top broke. the sail was totally destroyed and of course the top too. don´t know if it was something about his style of sailing (don´t think so to be honest). but you can use the normal sail, as i know.

KnightMare Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1682	Post Options Post Reply Quote KnightMare Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 7:43pm
	Oh not too good. Though you do have breakages with the normal masts.

sailor.jon Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 02 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 361	Post Options Post Reply Quote sailor.jon Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 7:53pm
	Allowing expensive options like carbon uppers represents a move away from the laser's trademark one-design concept. The proposed carbon upper for the radial benifits: 1) More flexible 2) Better strength : weight ratio so less weight up top so less heeling moment. 3) More expensive: the builders can make mega profits by flogging an expensive upper to every radial racer worldwide. (Considering they charge millions for a simple aluminium tube, heaven knows what a carbon spar would cost...) The lower mast would stay aluminium. However, as well as all the cost disadvantages, the carbon upper would have another set back for the radial class: The cost of buying a radial rig would increase from sail + lower to sail + lower + expensive upper. Decreasing the effectiveness of the "formula laser" Edited by sailor.jon
	Jon Vortex 1169 Yorkshire Dales Sailing Club

KnightMare Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1682	Post Options Post Reply Quote KnightMare Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 8:06pm
	Good point but it would be a better mast for someone who is overpowered. will alow the top section to fall off slightly, but whether that is worth the costs.......

sailor.jon Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 02 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 361	Post Options Post Reply Quote sailor.jon Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 8:13pm
	personally i like the boat as it is, and don't think it needs anymore alterations, tho i do have the XD power packs, tho this made a big differece for me i sail at 5feet 9inch / 1.75mts and weigh 9st 10 / 62kgs i struggle when the wind gets up, i symaphise with ricks wife Edited by sailor.jon
	Jon Vortex 1169 Yorkshire Dales Sailing Club

bigwavedave Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 04 Jun 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 944	Post Options Post Reply Quote bigwavedave Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Mar 05 at 4:59pm
	But will it work? Its no good having sloppy top section if the sail doesn't fit it properly. Downwind in a blow it could be a bit unpredictable.


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	Also i thought that the point in having the 4.7 rig was that if you became over powered in a radial in a blow, you could switch over to the 4.7 rig ..............isnt this carbon top mast going to contradict what they were trying to get going?
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nathan Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 26 Apr 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 143	Post Options Post Reply Quote nathan Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Mar 05 at 8:09pm
	The idea was bought in around 2001. 4 masts were lent to RYA laser radial squad members I believe, and these were just used by these sailors... and the matter hasn't officially gone any further (that has been made public anyway). One of those got ran over by a car supposedly, so they should be 3... sounds like Jon Emmett has one. I think that they were made class legal in 2001 and you are allowed to use 'laser supplieded carbon top sections', however laser don't sell carbon top sections at the moment...