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Iain C
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Topic: Sailing photography advice (DSLR)Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 9:57pm |
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I know there are a few keen photographers on the forum now and I'm after some advice please!
I bought a DSLR earlier this year (Canon EOS 350D) with the kit 18-55 lens and a 75-300 lens and I've taken it out on the water with varying degrees of success so far. I tend to try and stay away from point and shoot mode as I am trying to learn how to use it properly, but I could do with some pointers!
What sort of settings should I be using ISO and aperture wise for a sunny day versus a darker day? Am I wasting my time with a longer lens or can I get away with it if I use a high ISO and put up with the "noise"? What sort of AF mode is the best?
Also, if I do need to splash out on a better lens that's good for marine photogrpahy, are there any recomendations that won't break the bank?
Thanks in advance, and if you want to see my mediocre pictures taken so far they're here...
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AlexM
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Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 10:46pm |
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doesn't look like you need any help to me nice photos |
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Iain C
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Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 11:05pm |
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Those are the OKish ones. Hit rate is rubbish, but thanks for the compliment! Edited by Iain C |
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AlexM
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Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 11:07pm |
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Villan
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Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 11:44pm |
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I'd be interested to see any advice given, as I am in the same boat.
I recently bought myself a Canon EOS 400D, with the standard 18-55mm, and am re-using one of my slightly older Tamron 80-300mm lenses as well. Point and shoot results are coming out OK, and some of the ones I fiddle with look good, but so far, havnt found any good repeatable settings. Good topic Iain, Hopefully there will be some good advice from the Fotoboaters (Dont worry guys/gals, I won't be stealing your business ... Well .. One event I will be .... )James |
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Jack Sparrow
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Posted: 22 Aug 08 at 12:07am |
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Concentrate on composition and look for an image that tells a story.
Hit rate is always high. Midday light will be flat. For sports photography. A BIG lens is essential. And it will cost. If it doesn't you are likely to be unhappy with the results and it will limit the light conditions you can use it as it will more than likely be a slow lens. As for pushing ISO numbers on a digital, it's all down to what are happy with, in terms of noise. Or what you are like processing RAW format images. Something to think about is what setting you have the camera's exposer field set on. Play with the exposure field. Try a center weighted one and take readings and expose for your images focal point / area of interest / drama center. Bracket your shots. Post production. Push the images a bit. That's my few pennies worth. |
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Posted: 22 Aug 08 at 6:58am |
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Those pics are looking good. Remember that the AF setting affects the depth of field. Try setting to AF mode then the camera will sort out the shutter speed. Take a note of the results and settings. From there you can switch to full manual replicate the settings and adjust to suit. For example faster shutter speed but adjust AF for more light, or change ISO. A lot of my pics are indoors in poor light, so I tend to shoot at 400. It was nice in Cornwall to get to outside and shoot at 100 for a change. Just wish I had remembered to change it back. Don't worry about the hit rate, most pics are personal. Plenty of info here but it does take a bit of sifting through http://digital-photography-school.com |
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Posted: 22 Aug 08 at 7:19am |
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Having had a quick look through your photos I have a couple of comments about composition you might want to consider:
1. You are tending to centre your subject (and horizon) a lot. The rule of thirds is generally regarded as being more pleasing to the eye. In other words rather than trying to get the subject (and horizon) right in the middle, try to put it 1/3 or 2/3 of the way across and/or up the photo 2. When photographing something that is moving (eg you action shots of boats), when framing the picture leave some room for the object to move into (otherwise it tends to look a bit as though it is caged) |
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Posted: 22 Aug 08 at 9:03am |
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I am more of a film camera than a digital camera so technqiues such as holding back the exposure of part of a picture while over exposing another part in the dark room are kind of obsolete. But other technqiues are not such as composition are skills that you can transfer. The best think to do is to get yourself on a course where you can learn about the operations of the camera, not just the intereface but what happens inside and deals with composition. Then get out and practice lots. Also good books are a must. I have usually found that the oldest books are the best. the ones you pick up form a second hand shop that were published 30 years ago are great. This is because they talk about the fundermental basics and once you have those you can build on them. Also look at proffessional books and ask yourself "Why do I like this shot? Where's the subject? What is the foreground doing?" and so on. Traditionally one of the best tips is that you can never be close enough to you subject. Since this wil mean using a simple lens. Once you start using telescopic lens the picture quality does go down becasue the light is having to be refracted through more optics. If you are taking portraits use a lens that is the same photo length as the human eye. This is will give a much better looking /human result when you look at it (it fools the brain as to thinking it is real face). The human eye comes in around 58mm. So in any keen photograper arsenal is a fixed focal length lens of 55mm. Remember shots that are not personal are the easiest to do. eg landscapes, then action/sport shots are pretty easy becuase the human subject is busy and it just a matter of positoning yourself, but the hardest are natural human shots. The more you practice the better. soon you will be looking at the light and you will be able to judge yourself the EV of the shot. Oh yes I have always used spot metering as all the other types will only produce a compromise picture and if you are taking action shots you can always crop off what you do not want, so you want to be very specific on your metering. With film I would never use anything more than a 200ISO film as the results are too grainy (unless you want it for effect in which case infra red film is great). You can "push" an ISO 100 up to 400 and a 200 up to 800. so there is no need for any faster fims. You do this by underexposing the shots and thnen you can over expose in the dark room. Controll your breathing. It is like shooting a rifle. take two breaths, hold your brettah for five seconds and the take the shot. That way you will be still you you take the shot. Use the heavest tripod you can find. This will reduce the shake of the camera. Reducing the physical camera shake before taking the shot will be a million times better than the shake reduction systems many cameras now have. Use the timer - even to take landscapes. This will stop you from moving the camera when pressing the shutter release. Just a few tips but get yourself on a good course or join a camera club. |
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Iain C
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Posted: 22 Aug 08 at 9:55am |
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Thanks for the tips all. Jack, some of what you are talking about is a bit beyond me but thanks all the same! When you say "hit rate is always high" do you mean most of your shots are good? When I said my hit rate is low I mean most shots are fit only for deletion...or am I confusing my terminology here? I've heard good things about shooting in RAW but I've yet to fully understand it or try it. Mossman, I'm aware of the rule of 1/3s, and believe it or not I thought I was doing it! But you are absolutely right, nearly every shot is centred! Thanks for highlighting that to me! Something I have noticed is that if I quite like a shot but it looks a bit dull light wise, it can look very effective if I convert it to B&W...but perhaps this is cheating? Can I use the camera or GIMP to compensate? I guess what I was really after with this thread are perhaps some basic dos and donts...especially if shooting from another boat rather than on the land. For example, if it's dull should I be on ISO400 or 800, is there a focal length that I really should not be going beyond or a minimum shutter speed to reduce shake, and if I'm on a moving yacht am I better off crouching down and trying to "lock" my body or am I better off standig up with an arm around the shroud and staying "fluid" if that makes sense. Do I even bother about trying to keep the horizon level or do I just concentrate on the rest of the composition and sort the horizon out later in GIMP? Thanks again! |
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