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    Posted: 19 Mar 08 at 1:32pm
I'm at the investigation stage of buying a cat. I'm new to sailing, will be sailing out of Weymouth and probably won't be racing. I was heading towards a Dart 18 as it can be sailed both double and single handed. Somebody then recommended the Hobie 16 because of it's versatility ie twin trapeze, kite and that it can be sailed in a bigger range of winds. Is he right?
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definitely

for fun sailing, not racing, the Hobie 16 offers un-rivalled grins

it is also bullet proof compared to a Dart 18.

Cannot necessarily be sailed in a wider range of winds, but is certainly
more fun when the breeze is up, and far more fun in any waves or swell.

you know you want one!

The Dart 18 is the Ford Mondeo of cats
The Hobie 16 is the Mk iii Cortina in full 70's Rally trim.

The Mondeo will get you there (if you manage to stay awake) but the
Cortina will leave you grinning from ear to ear, despite all the roll and
squealling rubber!

Get a 16
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Loving the analogy!
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Originally posted by Nessie


The Dart 18 is the Ford Mondeo of cats
The Hobie 16 is the Mk iii Cortina in full 70's Rally trim. 

Indeed. Surprised a Hobie16 didn't feature in "Life on Mars"

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Ha Ha that reply by Nessie (I will work this one out one day!!) was excellent.

There are other 16ft cats also, so look at the Dart 16X or the 16CX from topper if it appeals

The advantage with the D16 is you can reef the sail if you need to, something you may want to consider, and I don't know if the Hobie can but I am sure someone will know.

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So is a Rally spec Mkiii Cortina ok with just the driver or do you need your partner along side?

P.S. I was trying to imaging flared wetsuits but I soon stopped.

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Originally posted by radixon

There are other 16ft cats also, so look at the Dart 16X or the 16CX from topper if it appeals

The Dart 16X does appeal but it seems to get such a slating. To be honest it has everything I need. You can sail it one up (a bit heavy righting it), twin trapeze, kite, durable. I learnt to sail recently with Sail Laser and they have a 16x I can have a go on. I just don't want to get stuck on something that I might out grow a bit quick.

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We Import the Bimare X16 sounds like just the cat for you !!

Check out Bimares websites to see if you like it !!

http://www.bimare.net/17/x16.htm

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i tootled about single handed on the 16 many a time. But it depends how
heavy you are. For righting as well.

it's the scales, you know! - pun intended

take the jib off and you're laughing.

you will need two bodies when the wind is up, though.
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the 16 main does have a reef point.

The halyard features a double lock - one for full sail, and the other for reef.
(never used it though!)
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