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    Posted: 24 Mar 06 at 5:50am

As some of you are aware, I have been out of the country (uk) for a while. On returning (next month) I was a bit gauled to notice that petrol has taken a hike to nearly 1 pound per litre..... it was around 65 only 2 years ago which seems a big increase.

Now it would appear that my car tax is double also at a wapping 210 quid. How did this happen? Is anyone out their in posession of a car which isn't so much and can it tow a boat at 60 mph? Is there going to be more fuel protests? How do poorer earners live?

Oh, and incidentally - how come British troops are still in Iraq?I thought everyone was against it, including the troops. Everybody else in the world thinks it is just our American friends. Why hasn't the prime minister been shot?



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And those crime prevention cameras aren't much use at catching burglars (who hide in shadows, surprise, surprise), but they are very good at spotting people who double park for 30 seconds while taking the shopping out of the car, and then sending them a £100 bill...And we will all be watched via a biometric identity card as soon as we need a new passport, too, your DNA will be on record so it is likely you won't be able to get heath insurance if your genes aren't perfect (of course the government will sell the info - (they sell all the other data they get from us) and you will be hauled in for crimes you have nothing to do with because your DNA will be all over the scene but the actual person who did it wore gloves and a mask, and the police won't bother actually solving crimes by traditional methods any more...

I'd stay where you are, Bumble...Tax is now higher here than it has been since the 70's, but it is all done in secret, rather than on income, so you end up paying tax on your tax, even. I'd say kick them out, but the next lot will be just as bad.
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Posts: 3941 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Black no sugar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 06 at 9:34am
Rupert for PM!
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Turnturtle as Home Secretary will increase taxes on wholesale starch and use the profits to sponsor grob's London marathon.


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Just seen from the DVLA website that my car tax will now be £175, just
because my car was registered before 2001. Was the same car registered
after 2001 it would cost £110. How is this fair? Am I causing any more
pollution than an identical but newer car? I think not, as my car is actually
more fuel efficient now than when it was new. So how can they justify
charging people more who can't afford new cars?
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Posts: 110 		Post Options Post Options   Quote far canal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 06 at 10:12am

Its called taxing the poor !!!!! , if you are too poor to buy a new car you pay more tax , simple !!!!

When the emission related duties came in they listed all engine numbers of cars and models that would get better rates , then abitarily decided to do it by date of registration , so both my wifes car and mine had exactly same spec as those eligible but taxed higher . I wrote to Vehicle excise bampots pointing this out , but guess what they didn't even bother to reply !

Well done GB & TB guess whose not gitting my votes (and for many other reasons)

 

They will be bring back extra tax on boats next !

 

 
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Just been cruising the DVLA site, is there any way of finding out the CO2 emmisions for specific cars?

I was under the impression that diesel cars were more economical because they generally returned a higher MPG. I noted a definite trend in increasing diesel prices when the car manufacturers shifted to a bias on diesel cars... I have a 1.9 Diesel clio which has about 60bhp (same as a base petrol) so its not fast, and i have to pay more tax than if i had the 1.8 16v petrol model?!

There is a lot I could say about the current government but IN MY OPINION it is something that should be said about ALL politicians. They're crafty little buggers with their only interest is in being re-elected. I think a system needs to be brought in which forces them to do what they think is 'right' for the good of the people and country rather than trying to secure their job. Perfect example is in the USA, where (unless they are completely stupid) they can see the long term benfits of signing the Kyoto agreement (which i also wouldn't rule out), but no one has the balls to stand up and do anything about it because they won't be voted in next time round. WHY does this happen?!
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Originally posted by timnoyce

I think a system needs to be brought in which forces them to do what they think is 'right' for the good of the people and country rather than trying to secure their job.


Ah well, that was the role of the Monarch and the House of Lords, whose powers have been greatly reduced in recent years.

I'm not competent to comment on political theory, but I remember my suprise when I read a book from the Eighteenth century commenting on how superior the then English system was to a pure democracy because of exactly those sorts of problems.

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Originally posted by timnoyce

no one has the balls to stand up and do anything about it because they won't be voted in next time round. WHY does this happen?!


Exactly right!  If the government simply tweak everything that's currently going on, they can then stand up and say "ooooo look we've made that a little bit better" but if they do anything drastic which would actualy make a real difference then they risk upsetting a large faction of people.  And yes possibly wouldnt get voted in for the next term, and no government party wants to take a salary decrease, even if it does end up being for the good of the country. 

Sadly the government wont take the time to really listen unless we force them to listen.  Potential protest time me thinks....

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I think I need to get involved. I don't mind if people don't like me as long as there is a reason for it!! It just needs someone to go in and shake the system up a bit. In the american case I think that Arni is the man to go for it. The state of California has very strict rules on a lot of things involving cars and emmisions etc. It is generally there where they start and then they get filtered elsewhere (or so i heard).
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