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    Posted: 16 Aug 22 at 12:49pm
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Lots of trad boats out there that would work, if you don't want a kite an Enterprise is a lovely, well mannered boat, if you do then GP14, Scorpion, Wanderer for starters or the 2000 is a good boat. I haven't sailed a 400 but it has a big jib and kite which might be too much for a youngster. Merlins are pretty full on and aren't cheap for a decent boat. If it was me I'd discuss with the lad whether he wants the challenge of a kite and buy either an Ent or a 2000.

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Plenty of Merlin helms sail with petite female crews so I suspect he'd find it OK. 400 is, by reputation, maybe more grunty? Merlin is a more tippy, so in some ways it's whether it will suit you as a helm. Symmetric might be better for lake sailing.

How big is the lake and what else is sailed? I guess if you are asking the question there isn't an 'obvious' fleet option.
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Merlin, even an older would, would be potentially dynamite.

Scorp not a bad option.

N12 maybe too tippy.
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170kg in a 12 might be a bit much!
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I missed the 170kg

Merlin or Scorpion ok. I actually wouldn't rule a 400 out.
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Scorpion would be a decent shout, but they are not a big boat, 170kg might be dragging its transom a bit.

Kestrel would be a good shout as it carries weight well and has decent performance. if you want to loose the kite aspect, Albacore is a lovely boat to sail
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Originally posted by A2Z

Thanks all.  It’s a biggish lake, but there is no class racing for two man boats other than flying 15s.  There are a few 200s, 400s and occasional scorpion. Also Musto skiffs and 100s so big enough for anything I would want.


Then a 400 would not be a bad choice.
You will learn much more with some others of the same class to help you.
If it's mostly asy boats, then an asy boat is a good choice.
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Inland biggish lake. Who's doing the driving? 100kg crew in a down to weight Wayfarer would go nicely. Apart from the 400, others seem a bit small, especially if son keeps getting bigger. Personally I've always been over canvassed in bigger wind but much prefer that and managing power to looking for more and sitting in more than half the time.  
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