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    Posted: 01 May 21 at 2:35pm
Off SH topic but I agree on Wayfarers. Big powerful boats which need sympathetic handling. There were several at the sea club where I began sailing. As a crew I always felt that my hiking had minimal effect and in heavy weather if people let them heel too much the weather helm resulted in broken rudder blades more than once.
Only helmed one a couple of times as a novice and didn't particularly enjoy it. I was advised to get a Laser and with no formal training but a little coaching from a mate "stop mincing and get a hold of it" I soon came to really like it as fun and responsive experience. 
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Mirror too.
Only time I have been frightened in a boat was in a 'Wayfarer', went out calm and came back in a gale, big heavy boat when its got a bit of speed.
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What is necessary could be indicated by a traffic light system, Laser, Solo, Topaz etc = Green, Blaze, Phantom, = Amber and anything with a kite, or trapeze or specials like the 300, IC and Moth = Red. A newb doesn't need to know that it's unstable upwind or offend or that it's hard to gybe or overpowered in F2 they just need to know it will chuck them in at some point around the lake and they'll spend the rest of the session swimming. 

WRT single handing two handed boats, you are an experienced sailor and what its a suitable bot for an experienced sailor to sail singlehanded may be too much for a newb, that  said there's not much wrong with a Firefly or Grad.



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This list is so blinkered. If I was single handing, I'd like a Firefly. Last time I did sail alone it was in a Comet Duo. And even the Wayfarer is sailed single handed by many. All much more comfortable than these ironing boards.
If it's a list for newcomers, how many times do they say "I want something I can sail single handed but also take the children out in"?
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Was for us. Conversation was the important bit.
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I was wondering if getting people to try sailing by taking them out in a club boat for a few mins at an open day was still a thing that happened. - pre Covid.
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Originally posted by epicfail

Do clubs still do open days to encourage new sailors / members or is this not allowed these days? 


"These days" meaning covid, yes it's a problem. But other than that, why would it be?
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Do clubs still do open days to encourage new sailors / members or is this not allowed these days? 
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Posts: 789 		Post Options Post Options   Quote tink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Apr 21 at 8:17pm
Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by tink



iGRF is wrong about his opinions on Lasers, ]


I'd buy a fleet of used Lasers if it meant more bodies on our water, my normal beef with them is the ludicrous handicap they now have, but as a tool for the particular job we now have at hand which is a bunch of boats to teach newcomers the basics and get them racing, there's not much better to hand.

80 per cent of the remaining racers down the lake ride Lasers, so whatever I might think about them, they are a fact of our existence.

Nice bit of selective quoting 

You missed the bit where I said ‘keep looking at our results and result wise they are peppered through the fleet’ 

There are lots of unfit blokes in old Lasers making Lasers bandits but these are balanced by fit blokes with XD kit and lots of training 
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Originally posted by iGRF

I have never advocated teaching kids, complete waste of time. Never has there been enough effort by any Governing body at targeting adults, why, because funding is easier to achieve by targeting kids.

Tomorrow we have a little Agm of the remaining members if there are a dozen of us I'll be surprised, so desperate times need desperate measure, my thinking was to attempt a little local ad/marketing campaign targeting mature empty nesters. Actually aim at older folk with more time on their hands(and disposable income) who may have missed opportunities to learn to do what we do.

Obviously I'm blinded by my own enthusiasm and can't understand why anyone wouldn't want to do something that not only exercises their body but the mind as well, but there are so so many obstacles and frankly they need short circuiting. So no kids, just senior grown ups who might still remember the freedom to do what the f**k we liked in the seventies without some overbearing authority wanting to wipe our backsides for us.

Of all the people I have taught to sail (excluding my daughter) it was a couple of 60+ year olds that I saw most at the club in the years that followed. I do think that older adults commit more than younger people. Adults are actually motivated rather than, in many cases parents wanting their kids to sail and in many cases a few hours or relatively cheap childcare. As in previous post I have and am actively support kids sailing. 
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