cherubs???

   could someone please explain what a cherub is. i heard someone on here say they're 12ft version of an 18fter but i also heard at our club that they're wooden.  please help im very confused 

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mike ellis Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339	Post Options Post Reply Quote mike ellis Report Post Quote Reply Topic: cherubs??? Posted: 08 Jan 06 at 8:18pm
	could someone please explain what a cherub is. i heard someone on here say they're 12ft version of an 18fter but i also heard at our club that they're wooden. please help im very confused

ssailor Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 11 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 430	Post Options Post Reply Quote ssailor Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Jan 06 at 8:27pm
	they are baby versions of an international 14 (now ducking to avoid flying objects thrown by tom and cherub fans
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timnoyce Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 05 Aug 04 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991	Post Options Post Reply Quote timnoyce Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Jan 06 at 8:34pm
	" Just twelve feet long, with a hull weight of only 50kg the Cherub combines spectacular downhill performance with the "on the edge" handling characteristics only found in true high performance boats. Get your heart racing in the best twin-trapeze boat for mixed and lighter weight crews. Cherub sailing is where the challenge extends to setting up the boat to suit the sailor, and may be even designing and building too. The Cherub is one of the most interesting and innovative of all dinghies. "
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timnoyce Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 05 Aug 04 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991	Post Options Post Reply Quote timnoyce Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Jan 06 at 8:39pm
	That was the official answer anyway! The whole 'light weight' thing is only a suggestion if you want to go fast on handicap though as some of us lardys have exceptional fun when the wind picks up a bit. I for one am a big fan of the class not only for the sailing but also due to the fact that the boats are very customisable so you are able to make your perfect boat! Due to the nature of the Development classes you will find that they all vary so some of the older designs will be made of wood. All the recent boats have been made using foam sandwich with either glass or carbon. They are very lightweight with relatively big kites so exceptionally quick off the wind!
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Strawberry Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 21 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1337	Post Options Post Reply Quote Strawberry Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Jan 06 at 8:42pm
	Length: 12ft Beam: 6ft Min Hull Weight: 50kg Upwind sail area: 15.5sqm Gennaker: 21sqm Often constructed from carbon sandwhich. Wood is now very rarely used. They tend to be very very fast downwind, due to large sail area and a light hull. However, they tend to struggle when in displacement mode due to lack of length. The Cherub is a development class, meaning sailors are free to modify their boats within a few basic rules. These rules are reviewed and updated on a regular basis and encourage good technical knowledge and innovation within the class. They support a relatively light crew with typical (all up) crew weights being 18-25stone For more info visit: www.sailingsource.com/cherub www.dangerousstrawberry.co.uk PM me if your interested in a test sail.
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timnoyce Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 05 Aug 04 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991	Post Options Post Reply Quote timnoyce Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Jan 06 at 8:45pm
	Best bet is to visit the Class Association website as it is regularly updated and you will see what cherubs are all about... http://www.sailingsource.com/cherub/chframe.php Below is a direct link to a list of all the cherubs in current circulation so you can see how they have changed over the years! http://www.sailingsource.com/cherub/dokuwiki/doku.php/boats
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Jack Sparrow Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jack Sparrow Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Jan 06 at 8:56pm

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mike ellis Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339	Post Options Post Reply Quote mike ellis Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jan 06 at 6:20pm
	thnx 4 all of them. that cleared up the "wood" issue. what would be a good price for a competetive second hand boat, or would i have to go the whole hog and get a new one? would you say it is a good step up from a 29er? again thanks for any answers.

Isis Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 01 Sep 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2753	Post Options Post Reply Quote Isis Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jan 06 at 6:28pm
	Sweet Dreams is for sale at the moment and is the perfect first cherub, ready to sail now (and proven to be quite quick) but all set for the new rules rig if and when you want to convert. Death by Chocolate design in carbon/foam sandwich: Angell Carbon Mast and Boom 2 Excellent Kites Good Main Good Jib Continuous Kite + Jib Sheets 12:1 Kicker Twin Trapeze Launching Trolley Under and Over Covers Down To Class Weight £2600 http://www.sailingsource.com/cherub/dokuwiki/doku.php/seco ndhand PM me or any of the other cherubers in here if you want some more details, or speak to the owner direct (email and phone number in the link) Edited by Isis

jpbuzz591 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 24 May 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 793	Post Options Post Reply Quote jpbuzz591 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jan 06 at 9:18pm
	Also mike if you get a cherub you have to get a really cool paint job
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