cherubs???
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Topic: cherubs???
Posted By: mike ellis
Subject: cherubs???
Date Posted: 08 Jan 06 at 8:18pm
could someone please explain what a cherub is. i heard someone on here say they're 12ft version of an 18fter but i also heard at our club that they're wooden. please help im very confused
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Posted By: ssailor
Date Posted: 08 Jan 06 at 8:27pm
they are baby versions of an international 14   (now ducking
to avoid flying objects thrown by tom and cherub fans  ------------- Any one in need of quality carbon fibre work (tillers etc) at decent prices! Int 14 Gbr 1244 'Nucking Futs' The New Port rule!!. |
Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 08 Jan 06 at 8:34pm
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Just twelve feet long, with a hull weight of only 50kg the Cherub
combines spectacular downhill performance with the "on the edge"
handling characteristics only found in true high performance boats. Get
your heart racing in the best twin-trapeze boat for mixed and lighter
weight crews.
Cherub sailing is where the challenge extends to setting up the boat to suit the sailor, and may be even designing and building too. The Cherub is one of the most interesting and innovative of all dinghies. " ------------- http://www.facebook.com/bearfootdesign - BEARFOOT DESIGN Cherub 2648 - Comfortably Numb |
Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 08 Jan 06 at 8:39pm
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That was the official answer anyway! The whole 'light weight' thing is only a suggestion if you want to go fast on handicap though as some of us lardys have exceptional fun when the wind picks up a bit. I for one am a big fan of the class not only for the sailing but also due to the fact that the boats are very customisable so you are able to make your perfect boat! Due to the nature of the Development classes you will find that they all vary so some of the older designs will be made of wood. All the recent boats have been made using foam sandwich with either glass or carbon. They are very lightweight with relatively big kites so exceptionally quick off the wind! ------------- http://www.facebook.com/bearfootdesign - BEARFOOT DESIGN Cherub 2648 - Comfortably Numb |
Posted By: Strawberry
Date Posted: 08 Jan 06 at 8:42pm
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Length: 12ft Often constructed from carbon sandwhich. Wood is now very rarely used. They tend to be very very fast downwind, due to large sail area and a light hull. However, they tend to struggle when in displacement mode due to lack of length. The Cherub is a development class, meaning sailors are free to modify their boats within a few basic rules. These rules are reviewed and updated on a regular basis and encourage good technical knowledge and innovation within the class. They support a relatively light crew with typical (all up) crew weights being 18-25stone For more info visit: PM me if your interested in a test sail. ------------- Cherub 2649 "Dangerous Strawberry |
Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 08 Jan 06 at 8:45pm
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Best bet is to visit the Class Association website as it is regularly updated and you will see what cherubs are all about... http://www.sailingsource.com/cherub/chframe.php Below is a direct link to a list of all the cherubs in current circulation so you can see how they have changed over the years! http://www.sailingsource.com/cherub/dokuwiki/doku.php/boats ------------- http://www.facebook.com/bearfootdesign - BEARFOOT DESIGN Cherub 2648 - Comfortably Numb |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 08 Jan 06 at 8:56pm
 ------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 09 Jan 06 at 6:20pm
| thnx 4 all of them. that cleared up the "wood" issue. what would be a good price for a competetive second hand boat, or would i have to go the whole hog and get a new one? would you say it is a good step up from a 29er? again thanks for any answers. |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 09 Jan 06 at 6:28pm
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Sweet Dreams is for sale at the moment and is the perfect first cherub,
ready to sail now (and proven to be quite quick) but all set for the
new rules rig if and when you want to convert. Death by Chocolate design in carbon/foam sandwich: Angell Carbon Mast and Boom 2 Excellent Kites Good Main Good Jib Continuous Kite + Jib Sheets 12:1 Kicker Twin Trapeze Launching Trolley Under and Over Covers Down To Class Weight £2600 http://www.sailingsource.com/cherub/dokuwiki/doku.php/seco ndhand PM me or any of the other cherubers in here if you want some more details, or speak to the owner direct (email and phone number in the link) ------------- |
Posted By: jpbuzz591
Date Posted: 09 Jan 06 at 9:18pm
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Also mike if you get a cherub you have to get a really cool paint job
------------- Jp Indoe Contender 518 Buzz591 Chew Valley Sailing club Bristol |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 10 Jan 06 at 3:46pm
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Untill you sail a development class you have only scratched the surface of the world of ductape uses...
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 10 Jan 06 at 3:53pm
thnx for the offer but i am not looking for a new boat yet . i was just musing on what to do when i get bored/too big for a 29er. cherubs look like great boats and from what ive seen on here the competition would be quite entertaining. its definitly worth considering. the thing i am realy interested in is should it be 49er, cherub or other next? any unbiased opinions will be useful.
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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 10 Jan 06 at 4:26pm
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Including most amusing hobbies...
------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC 
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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 10 Jan 06 at 5:24pm
My opinion is totaly biassed but I know of at least one person who sailed a cherub, then moved 'up' into a 49er only to sell it 6 months later and get another cherub because it just didnt have the same buzz. The speed on paper is not what matters in having fun, its the impression of speed and nothing creates that feeling better than a short boat with a lot of rag. ------------- |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 10 Jan 06 at 5:54pm
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Trust me, even a slower cherub feels bullet fast, they are soo bouncy its amazing, hanging off the back as you hurtle along! ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 10 Jan 06 at 8:05pm
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GET A CHERUB!!!!! ------------- |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 10 Jan 06 at 8:16pm
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For anybody interested in getting some cheruby goodness into thier
lives: The owner of Sweet Dreams is moving to france in 2 weeks and is
keen to sell before then. Make him an offer. You wont regret it.
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 12 Jan 06 at 5:41pm
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ok im convinced. i can see what you mean about short boats. maybe ill get a test sail at the end of the year (im stayin in my boat for this year). |
Posted By: Richbower2663
Date Posted: 14 Jan 06 at 5:25pm
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Just so you all know the price of Sweet Dreams has been dropped to £2200! I really need to sell it soon! It comes complete and ready to get your heart racing on the water or to convert in time for the new season with a double stacking combi trailer and under over covers, kevlar main, dacron jib, 2 kites, angell carbon mast and boom. Most importantly this boat is only 50.5Kg's so is incredibly light! If you're interested PM me ASAP! Rich ------------- Rich Bower selling 49er #701 |