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L123456 
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 Topic: Why do dinghy sailors never train?Posted: 03 Oct 14 at 10:12am |
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Most clubs people club race then return ashore.
Most other sports people train / practice for 80% of the time and race 20% Rough guesses ... but why?
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kneewrecker
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Posted: 03 Oct 14 at 10:17am |
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time- if I had more time to sail, I'd choose to race.
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Steve411
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Posted: 03 Oct 14 at 10:29am |
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I've never understood it, but personally I do quite a lot of practice/training (it's easier I find with a singlehander). I guess I probably do twice as much training as racing, but probably more racing in the winter when training alone can be a bit miserable, though there can be a certain masochistic satisfaction doing an hour's practice in freezing conditions in January knowing you've got one over on your main rivals!
I quite enjoy taking myself off for a few hours but that may just be me (billy no mates). I didn't mean it to sound quite like that but you get my drift.
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JimC
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Posted: 03 Oct 14 at 10:35am |
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If you're not that bothered about winning, and the racing is more fun than the training, then why not...
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kneewrecker
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yep- I get that. Nothing better sometimes than a day on the water with your toys without human contact beyond the perfunctory 'I'm here safe' and 'I'm on my way home' text messages.
That might extend to 'a sausage roll please' at a cafe, but really nothing else- no email, no phone calls, no phatic discourse with work people. I know you're supposed to say things like 'being at one with nature', but actually I just mean 'switch off' and rest of the world can go F8ck itself for a few measly self-indulgent hours on a boat or a board.
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iGRF
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Posted: 03 Oct 14 at 10:44am |
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I think if you are serious about training, with an end goal in mind then you need a training partner, sailing alone is bloody boring.
I guess that these days it could be argued that the end goal of total success is so far above attainability by average joe that there seems no point. Which is totally wrong, the thing that most appealed to me about sailing all those years ago, was that however good folk were, however much they spent, God would send in a swerve, deny one side of the beat wind and give it to the other and they'd suddenly be down the back and you'd be up the front. In certain conditions of course. Then I come up against girls like that Europe sailor that has done the Squad thing to Olympic level (the other girl went) and I realise, there is no chance, too late pal, thirty years ago, maybe  
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Presuming Ed
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Some sports are training sports - where training is doing the sport. Others are competing sports. E.g. Rowing is a training sport. When I was a club oarsman, we trained 20 hrs a week from Sept/Oct until July. Total time spent racing during the year? Two or three hours or so. I would guess that most tennis club members spend more time playing than practicing. Likewise many club rugby players run out a couple of evenings a week, and play at weekends. Ditto Sunday football. At the higher levels, of course, more time is spent training than competing in all sports.
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Null
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Think we have had a similar thread before. I don't understand why i see so few people training. Especially given the investment people make in kit. For me its a time thing, always has been. However i consider cycling and gym work as training for sailing. I find it helps with concentration as well as fitness. I also think improved strength and fitness is going to give me more in terms of performance increase then practising tacking, gybing etc. Thats working on the basis you are proficient in the first place. I am fitter now then i have been for a number of years and following a year off sailing i am ready to give the winter and next year a good shot. Now I am in a new class i will however have to train to get race fit. By that i mean learn how to tack and gybe the boat quickly and effectively. As well as get an understanding of whats fast and not. However the Zero is a simple boat so i dont think it will take long to crack. Club racing will be sufficient practice for this. We will probably have 12 months until a full on sailing open calender is established for the zero so i have time to crack it!
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Posted: 03 Oct 14 at 11:02am |
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The good ones do train
There is loads that can be achieved in just an hour on the water. Far more beneficial that sitting around waiting to start, getting caught up with another load of boats. Granted - you need racing but some aspects of your sailing just cant be improved when you are surrounded by other racing boats. So its coming to a sensible balance of the two. Its no mystery- the better sailors do train way more than race - like all sports ? Tennis was used as an example of a 'competing' sport - its not - its a training sport like all the others (darts, snooker, running, cycling etc) - very simple really |
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Posted: 03 Oct 14 at 11:33am |
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Time is the answer for me.
I used to go to the gym 3 or 4 times a week to get my base fitness up which in turn improved my sailing as I was not getting as fatigued throughout a race. Now I simply do not have the time and prefer to spend that time enjoying sailing and racing as this is my hobby. Were I serious about it and wanting to compete at a higher level then yes I would train because I would have to.
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