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Dave3165 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 01 Sep 14 Location: SW London Online Status: Offline Posts: 4 |
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I was looking at the RS100 as a possible single-hander anyone in the family could use. Low maintence, intersting sai-plan, good performance, reasonable price. What's a bit worrrying is the nationals attendance which is perhaps not the best measure of class popularity but one of the few measures we have. 47 boats in 2011 25 in 2014? Maybe the open circuit is good? My question is: "is the class dying or thriving?"
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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before answering your latter question, I'd be more interested in asking if you're sure it's really a great boat for anyone in the family to use? Strong teenage lads and an amazonian misses...? Maybe. If not, then surely the Aero, or the Vareo with its optional storm sail, might be a better option.
With regards the other question, it's not on its arse just yet... but the class kicked a small minority out when they effectively vetoed the 10.2 sail. I guess it could recover as a proper one design, and if the depreciation gets much worse then it won't be long until the older boats are in that moribund student territory that the 600 was in not so long ago.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Another measure is the number of races reported in the PYS return.
I don't see why it shouldn't have a market, but its one of those classes that had a lot of people jump on and off again. One issue is that it seems to be a bit of a one trick pony in that it doesn't seem very satisfactory reaching and isn't as nice as either the 300 or the Aero upwind. |
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Punky ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 11 Feb 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 90 |
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Dave3165 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 01 Sep 14 Location: SW London Online Status: Offline Posts: 4 |
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Some good points made. I was thinking there isn't much between boats like the RS700, Musto Skiff and say a Solo. Interesting coment on the reaching.... I thought it would be good with that Asymetric.
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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Jim's point is reaching in single-sail mode... you won't be able to hold that kite at a very high angle in any sort of breeze, there just isn't the righting moment (beam) to do it.
That said, they are great fun blasting downwind, (one trick pony is a good approximation), but to give you another analogy, it's like going on a ski holiday and forgetting your lift pass.... for every screaming bit of fun you have downhill, there's a horrible trudge back up to the top again.
I'm assuming you mean 'solo' as in 'Swift Solo', not the Jack Holt designed water-pusher? |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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I don't think it should be a question 'is the class dying' more how is the company that builds it doing, and I'd say they're doing just fine.
As for their 'Nationals' the way they run them it is hardly surprising no one bothers to go, out on the water miles out to sea all day, but that doesn't mean there are not lots of them about racing, so if you like it then get it, it's not a very difficult boat, but needs a bit of getting used to getting back in if you fall out, it can be a problem on your own and you might need a rescue boat to steady the nose and come in over the back if you get knackered. Upwind it isn't the most stunning performer but from memory I'd say a lot nicer in that it holds its track better than an Aero which will need some concentration in order to get it to hold a line and with the big sail in light winds I found it could keep much faster boats at bay, the small sail I couldn't beat a Laser with. |
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Dave3165 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 01 Sep 14 Location: SW London Online Status: Offline Posts: 4 |
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Certainly RS is doing well but remember they are a business and are into production runs, profit margins and such so if nobosdy is buying their interest would rightly be elswhere...
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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They no longer build the RS300.......
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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I think their interest most certainly lies in other directions currently, the RS Aero seems to have a large amount of time focus on it- as it should, the RS100 is old hat now and as the product matured the reception has become somewhat more mixed.
That doesn't mean that a second hand boat from any of the rest of their range is something to worry about- quite the contrary if your first post here was asking for opinions on the RS300, a class they effectively disowned last year, but seems to be doing very nicely thank-you!!!
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