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    Posted: 20 Aug 14 at 1:05pm
Quite surprised to see on a certain American sailing site that the MX Next has gone into production and is actually exporting boats to Europe.

Anyone know whether one has been sailed on the same piece of water as an RS100 or D1?
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Looks like you're right on that one

http://www.mx-next.com/aug13_2014.html

"...As an early production incentive you can purchase an mxNext for $12,500 until May 1, 2014...."

Edited by fleaberto - 20 Aug 14 at 4:12pm
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So the early incentive price is almost £8k. I wonder what the standard price will end up being.
Alot of cash for something that to me is still quite unproven at least on these shores.
I think it does look really modern but I'm still curious how that whole wave peircing bow thing will work in chop. I wonder if you get a snorkel set included for the price?
It will be really interesting to see how it compares the the 100 and D1????
I am expecting it to be quicker than the 100 as it must be lighter due to carbon build but cant imagine it will be quicker than a D1. maybe somewhere inbetween the 2?
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If the waterline beam is as narrow as it looks, I'm afraid it might be quicker than both.  Longer, wider overall and lighter  than a 100.  Assuming the prodn boat mirrors the prototype...
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Originally posted by Medway Maniac

If the waterline beam is as narrow as it looks, I'm afraid it might be quicker than both.

bearing in mind an RS300 is also quicker than both, so what? The question is whether it will be a practical boat people want to sail, in the same way the MX-Ray - wasn't.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medway Maniac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Aug 14 at 10:29am
Light weight, no bowsprit to worry about, stabilisers Merlin-style in the form of topside flare but low wetted area if you keep it upright.  What's not to like apart from the hype?
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Medway Maniac

If the waterline beam is as narrow as it looks, I'm afraid it might be quicker than both.

bearing in mind an RS300 is also quicker than both, so what? The question is whether it will be a practical boat people want to sail, in the same way the MX-Ray - wasn't.

A d1 is quicker than a 300 on PY.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kneewrecker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Aug 14 at 8:57am
Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Medway Maniac

If the waterline beam is as narrow as it looks, I'm afraid it might be quicker than both.

bearing in mind an RS300 is also quicker than both, so what? The question is whether it will be a practical boat people want to sail, in the same way the MX-Ray - wasn't.


The 300 isn't quicker than either the D1 or RS 100 at top speed off wind in my experience, where it does leave (certainly the 100) a little shame faced is upwind and single sail reaching. I'd need to be convinced that it is noticeably faster than a D1 upwind too- those boats go very nicely to windward (considering all the pointless cargo they carry upfront)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote timeintheboat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Aug 14 at 3:46pm
How are you going to get back in it when it goes over? There does seem a lot of pointy boat in front of mast. Looks good though.
Like some other things - sailing is more enjoyable when you do it with someone else
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Chris 249 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Aug 14 at 12:50pm
It looks like many thousand development-class sailors and designers over the years have been wrong with their ideas like fore-and-aft trim, useable waterline length, and hull shape. Vlad has come to a design that shows where people such as Bieker, Bethwaite, Morrison, Patterson, Murray, Claridge, Walsh, Clark, Roe, Thorpe etc have been going wrong all this time, despite the fact that he has not even bothered to learn of the existence of such slow craft as the Assymetric Canoe or learn what the Canoe designers have pieced together.

People like Einstein and Newton are happy to say that they rested on the knowledge of others. Others ignore the lessons of hundreds of years of cumulative experience. Personally, I'd assume that the Einstein/Newton/Morrison/Bethwaite/Bieker/Westell/etc approach is the right one.
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