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 Topic: So you want to go fast......Posted: 08 Mar 14 at 11:32pm |
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So lets say you want to travel fast, say circa 950 ish py, but as a singlehanded.
The list is short, but such totally different boats Weta Tri, Vortex Asymetric, d-one. contender, 600 - add to the list please, but weird that the options available are so wildly different configuration. One to three hulls, trapeze, no trapeze - Kite, no Kite and yet the only two that are remotely similar are the contender and its younger understudy the 600.
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NeilB-Phantom
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Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 12:48am |
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In my experience the Weta struggles to sail anywhere near its rating.
International canoe - or is that toooo fast
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Medway Maniac
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Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 4:29am |
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Aside from going down the catamaran route (Vortex), getting speed out of a singlehander, especially with a lighter helm, requires high skill input; the Int. Canoe & Moth are good examples. Fast and easy to sail, on the other hand, is very tricky. The Contender does it using plenty of crew weight, and with stability gained through a wide waterline beam at the expense of a lot of wetted area and consequent dog-slow performance in light airs.
I need to get around to building the elongated scow Moth design that I've had sitting on my PC for ages. So far as I can see, a scow is the only way to achieve speed with stability. Build it light enough and waterline beam and wetted area can be reduced a lot by heeling, e.g. for lighter winds and upwind. Bring it upright and it has a perfect planing shape and massive stability.
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Rupert
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Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 8:06am |
Nice to know there is someone else on here who can see the advantages of the Scow hull shape! |
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Blue One
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Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 9:23am |
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Not many scow lovers on this forum anyway.
In fact not many scow lovers in sailing in general on this side of the pond. We're a dying breed.
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boatshed
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Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 9:37am |
RS300 ? Rated at 990 according to the new PY for 2014. |
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Er-Indoors
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Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 12:46pm |
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Interestingly Winging it has Contender and D-one and a scow Moth. Speed freak?
Also the Megabyte is quite fast, but I am not sure - I think most things are too fast (note L2000 "ride" yesterday, me arrrgh, W-it Wheeeeee). I suspect if someone would come and take away the "Shredder" on our drive that could be a very fast single hander with the right rig (someone, please?) |
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RS400atC
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Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 2:49pm |
MPS and 700 are faster than the 950 bracket. Plenty of singlehanded cats, you can race a Dart 18 one up, or a 15 or a Unicorn etc. I guess Moths passed through the 950 area at some point? Canoe is an obvious alternative, how about any of the other sliding seat boats, Toy and Minisprint? No idea how fast they'd be? What's the PY of a Mini Transat boat? Sailboard? To get to a PY in the 950 region, I guess you will need either plenty of waterline length, or to be planing a lot, so that means either a kite or a trapeze, or both? |
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Neptune
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Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 2:54pm |
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I used to think the 600 was fast, it is upwind, But in reality it's only white sail fast.
Point it downwind and unless it's planning it's not really very quick. That's why they are such different designs, everybody has a different idea of what is fast. |
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yellowwelly
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Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 2:56pm |
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I used to think windsurfing was faster until I got a lift on a moped and hit 40 knots downhill...
Speed... under sail power... DILLIGAF |
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