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Bill Peters 
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 Topic: What boat should I buy?Posted: 23 Aug 13 at 12:54am |
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Hi, I am after a bit of advice.I use to sail a Fireball about 25
years ago ,got married ,stopped sailing as you do ,had kids and worked. I now don't have to work as much and have spare time.I would like to buy a boat that i could sail with the kids or maybe by myself.I was considering a moth but felt they are too expensive and difficult for me to sail given my weight 91Kg to sail. Have been following all the hype recently about someone being able to foil a Laser which looks unbelievable and doubt that is possible for myself let alone the kids. I want something that is versatile not too expensive and will not be boring like a Heron, and at least as exciting to sail as a Fireball . What do you recommend? |
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ben_a
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Posted: 23 Aug 13 at 7:44am |
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If your focus is sailing by yourself / single hander (as indicated by moth / laser comments) then an RS300 would meet most of your requirements. Fun, much faster and more responsive than most other single sail options (moth/IC excluded). Simple and quick to get set up.
Take a look at the 'choosing a boat' forum for some discussion on it. Edited to Add - but as per comments below there isn't much room for the kids - if you want a 2 man that could be single handed then N12, RS200 might be options.
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winging it
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Posted: 23 Aug 13 at 8:16am |
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we get this request a lot. "I want something to sail by myself but with the kids sometimes plus it must be fast." It's akin to saying "I want a two seater sports car but sometimes need to take the wife and kids shopping" Unfortunately, until the manufacturers come up with an amazing extendable boat - like being able to put an extra plank in a table meant for two - such a boat doesn't really exist. You will always have to settle for a miserable compromise - like buying a Ford Focus Sports Edition when you really wanted a Lotus....
That's not helpful I know, but the reality is that what you're looking for doesn't exist: you need to weigh up your needs and see what comes out on top - or buy two boats. |
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the same, but different...
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GarethT
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Posted: 23 Aug 13 at 8:26am |
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How old/big are your kids?
If they're not too big, a 420 could give you a real blast when the wind blows (but not so great when it's light). The Laser 2000 is great compromise boat, but in terms of excitement it's no Fireball.
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iGRF
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Posted: 23 Aug 13 at 8:47am |
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They tell me the RS500 is sort of a modern fireball equivalent but it wouldn't be brilliant to sail single handed, the other fast light exciting single trap boat is the V3000, one of our guys sails his single handed, he rigged it a bit differently, but he has had a degree of success. I kind of got into sailing using an L3000 with my daughter it performs quite well with light crews providing there's a bit of wind.
I don't think, other than going back and forward in quite strong breeze, that the Laser will foil particularly well with it's current sail which will deform once asked to do anything other than go off beam reaching. Other than that, big single handers that you could take passengers? Phantom, Blaze would be my choice. |
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gbr940
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Posted: 23 Aug 13 at 8:49am |
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I can't believe i'm actually about to say this and a little bit of sick might have just gone in my mouth (much like muttering a rival premiership rugby team who's ACTUALLY better then you) - but a Dart 18 would probably tick all the boxes you might be after - did I just say that? Very cheap to buy, cheap to run, designed for being sailed single handed and then add crew, loads of spares. Right - i'm off to go have a word with myself!
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RS400 GBR1321
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Contender443
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Posted: 23 Aug 13 at 8:57am |
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Depends if the kids want to sail regularily and also do something on the boat. If not then try a Contender as it fits the box on performance and has plenty of space to take the kids out once in a while.
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yellowwelly
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Posted: 23 Aug 13 at 9:19am |
no need to be sick - a cat is the only option that is: a) easy b) versatile c) cheap d) go quick e) easy to launch from a beach there is no monohull that would do it as well. The closest is probably the Laser Vago, which is what I recommended to a friend recently when he gave me a similar brief. |
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2547
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Posted: 23 Aug 13 at 9:31am |
Who are the they in this? A rs500 is a long was short of a Fireball. There is no craft that meets this brief as winging it points out. After a 25 year break I'd advise against a Moth. Join your local club and see what they have. At your weight perhaps a phantom, you could fit a small child up front for a joy ride.
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2547
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Posted: 23 Aug 13 at 9:33am |
Apart from the fact that it weighs a ton and a father child partnership would never be able to pull it up the shingle/sand ....
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