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    Posted: 02 Dec 22 at 11:15pm
Originally posted by 423zero

RYA and local authority were happy with the commodore saying it had been dealt with?

This is the problem I have with this situation.

Tbh because it’s outside of my whole sailing experience, I have a problem with the whole of this situation.  Cry
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To explain the line manager, the accused was employed by the club as development officer. This was already after having been a long term voluntary member and sail trainer. As a volunteer club many people did not want a paid role to exist in the club like this. It was basically set up for that person having come out of a programme of sail training where said individual was employed by the LA to deliver sail training over a 3 year period. The public interest of that programme was going to be the income to sustain that paid development role in the club. But to many the figures didn’t add up. It was pure fantasy figures.


The role was proposed by them and a family member on the committee so it was already stitched up. The chair went along with it because the committee individual basically controls the club. The post never went to advert and €20k job went to someone to keep them in a job.

So you have the added dimension of whether thie accused was actually working or volunteering and statements were altered over that.
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This is a wind up, £20,000 job, only slightly more than minimum wage, hardly a step up. You have just stated he is employed by local authority for three years and by the club?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JRB12 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Dec 22 at 10:23am
Originally posted by 423zero

This is a wind up, £20,000 job, only slightly more than minimum wage, hardly a step up. You have just stated he is employed by local authority for three years and by the club?


No, the job with the LA ended and a job was created in the club to give this individual a job. I don’t know the exact salary given or hours worked.
As I said they had already been a club member in a voluntary club. There was no need for this paid role. Save some pie in the sky idea that the sail programme done with the LA was going to generate interest in sailing At the club.
So imagine a member of your voluntary club getting a full time job there without the broad agreement of the membership, with the scheme being proposed by their family member on the committee. Surely you’d be concerned?



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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Dec 22 at 1:17pm
I almost miss dinghy racing as much as threads like this.  LOL

Find another club, it really is very simple

Edited by turnturtle - 04 Dec 22 at 1:29pm
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TT, not tempted to come back for a career change? Top money circa £20,000
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sargesail Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Dec 22 at 8:07pm
Anybody else seeing this as a parallel to Ness’s FB Xmas Quiz? Guess the club….
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Originally posted by Dakota

[QUOTE=JRB12]The LA, I assume have taken the word of the chair, which is not worth a jot.
Governing body have had numerous items of evidence yet claim to have nothing to do
With club matters and won’t get involved.
A process has been deliberately hindered to ensure a favourable outcome to exonerate
Someone who holds a status in the club, yet abuses their position in the club.
People have nowhere to turn so, resign as directors , where they will be liable for any misconduct.

[/QUOTE



Why was the LA involved in the first place ? 


Why wasn’t the health and safety executive involved ? 

Also why did the accused have a ‘ line manager’ . What sort of sailing club has ‘ line managers ‘? 

This situation is very very strange .


if it is a safeguarding issues the LA  would be the first point of call  

also  EHO  often  do  H+S  enforcement for smaller organisations 

 voluntary  organisations  have line managemnt structures 

 you are  , quite frankly, embarassing yourself  here 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Dec 22 at 7:08am
he does that a lot, that's why his posts are checked, Nurse could you increase his meds
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Dec 22 at 12:53pm
Originally posted by 423zero

TT, not tempted to come back for a career change? Top money circa £20,000


hard pass
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