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    Posted: 21 Aug 17 at 7:31pm
Originally posted by Dougaldog

Davidyacht: I am well aware of the failings, on both sides, that took place during the event you refer to, but think it a bit sad that PSC are being pilloried unfairly. As I said, there were failings on both sides but this is hardly the forum for airing just one side of the grievances. I was at Hayling Island recently and would rather be here than there (and that is from some who lives on the IOW).I'm at PSC now and have seen them working hard across the week to make the Merlin Champs a success. I'm then staying on here to cover the IC worlds so will be able to give an better informed and reasoned view
in 10 days time.
But is it really just a case that it is being held at PSC? I don't think so and will do a short article looking back at the week here. Instead, if there is one factor that has hit the success of this week it has to be the weather - it has been grotty since day one.
The Wind Guru/XC weather effect that we often talk about is in plain view here.
However, all this is just part of a bigger picture. Defining what that bigger picture is, wow, that is a task and a half and I've little doubt that the RYA will continue to fund Consultant activity as they look at rebuilding the grassroots of the sport - if that is what they might want to do. And that is an even bigger question...do they even want to do it!
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I enjoyed David Henshall's Yachts & Yachting report on day 1 of the IC Worlds at Pwllheli, but sadly there was no link to the results.

I then went onto the Plas Heli website and dug around (a lot!) but only managed to find a faint mention of the event deep at the bottom of the events page with that promising statement "More information soon", halfway through the event.

On the same page there's a comprehensive set of results for the 2017 Pwllheli Triathlon though.

National Sailing Academy? Pathetic



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Redeeming features of Pwllheli as a holiday venue i accept are few but the sailing clubs and their attitude towards their visitors are simply poles apart. Pwllheli SC simply cannot do enough for you, make you feel welcome and are pleasant and polite to talk to. The bar stays open as long as you want it to within reason. The food is excellent and keenly priced.

OK, the building may have been designed by a drunk architect who had never felt the need to use a toilet, but at least they give the impression that they want you there.

SCYC could learn a number of lessons from the facility up the road.

If you get blown/calmed off at Pwllheli you are only a short drive away from Abersoch, Nefyn and the other more pleasant holiday surroundings on the peninsular. I found accommodation in a B&B with no issues whatsoever for open meetings and a house for a champs week was equally easy to find, if maybe a little on the pricey side - both within easy walking distance.

Its not a place i'd go to on holiday, but id definitely go sailing there again.
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Originally posted by Paramedic

Redeeming features of Pwllheli as a holiday venue i accept are few but the sailing clubs and their attitude towards their visitors are simply poles apart. Pwllheli SC simply cannot do enough for you, make you feel welcome and are pleasant and polite to talk to. The bar stays open as long as you want it to within reason. The food is excellent and keenly priced.
OK, the building may have been designed by a drunk architect who had never felt the need to use a toilet, but at least they give the impression that they want you there.
SCYC could learn a number of lessons from the facility up the road.
If you get blown/calmed off at Pwllheli you are only a short drive away from Abersoch, Nefyn and the other more pleasant holiday surroundings on the peninsular. I found accommodation in a B&B with no issues whatsoever for open meetings and a house for a champs week was equally easy to find, if maybe a little on the pricey side - both within easy walking distance.
Its not a place i'd go to on holiday, but id definitely go sailing there again.

Aren't all the sailing events run by Plas Heli these days?

I have to confess that I'm a bit anti Pwllheli, though many years ago they did a fantastic job. I did a Nationals there 3 years ago and the (very) amateur race team scored me in the wrong fleet, simply because they couldn't differentiate between a Standard and a Radial. Additionally they scored the fleets separately, not in order of boats finishing, so they had no record of my finishing position in my fleet. To add insult to injury they then went around the bar asking fellow competitors where I would normally have finished, in order that they could allocate me a finishing position. If we'd known where we were all going to finish why would we have bothered travelling all the way to Pwllheli?

Agree with Steve411 on accommodation, it's dire. Instead of building that eyesore next to PSC why didn't they just build a massive accommodation block and generate some decent revenue from the large sailing championships which they host? PSC always seemed to manage the numbers, especially with a marquee tagged on the end of the clubhouse.



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Just back from the 400 nationals at Mounts Bay. Seventy three boats on the start line. Brilliant race organisation in a difficult week for the RO. Great photography. Dolphins at the windward mark. Plenty of hoses to rinse boats, toes, and anything else with sand in it. Results up by approx. 7pm every day and a great report writer posting daily bulletins to Y&Y. St Michaels Mount reception opened up only to the championship fleet. Fantastic accommodation barely a minute’s walk from the club. Rounded off by a great (onesies) party. The right guys won. Special mentions to Joanne Boutle and Heather Chipperfield of the Association who ran the show brilliantly. Slight downside is I sailed like a dick!

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Only a handful of 14s at Rock - open meeting numbers
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Originally posted by rich96

Only a handful of 14s at Rock - open meeting numbers

23.
Quite a handful.
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That is good numbers for 14's. An interesting place to sail too. Amazingly beautiful and the sailing looks good too! 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote davidyacht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Aug 17 at 4:00pm
And 100 200's at Tenby ... maybe we can draw that there is a changing of the guard with the classes that are attracted to National Championships; both the RS200s and RS400s were at really good venues, and the classes appear to have pushed the party vibe quite hard.  This is also the Salcombe Merlin Week vibe.

Maybe some sailors have time to allocate to a week of sailing and mixed sex partying in quality venues, but are less attracted by hard core championship racing with a load of blokes with quite one dimensional socials, after all it is meant to be a holiday.
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200's had a 100 boat entry limit.... Maxed that pretty early on. 
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Maybe an entry limit is the key to maxing out early on?
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