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Neal_g ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Oct 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 323 |
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Now that is a point you have reminded me of the solution originally. Made by red eye sails. Then business collapsed and Hyde now build said sails and have added 250 to the price and changed the cloth to one of there spec.
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bustinben ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 15 Oct 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 288 |
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Yes, a few people have them now. Only a few mind...
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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You cannot easily sort it using NOR unless you deny protests based on measurement (cue can of worms being opened). There are other ways around it though if you really want to.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Don't see why not. All you need to say in the NOR is that the L class start/race/series is open to Laser class dinghies and boats that have Laser manufactured hulls with sails substantially similar to the official Laser class ones. Obviously there's a slippery slope there ("if he's allowed illegal sails, why shouldn't I be allowed a better rudder and a mainsheet system that doesn't catch the stern so easily"). Maybe the club would end up having to write their own set of class rules for their "Not-quite-a-Laser" class. The opinion I got from the RYA was that if a boat is deliberately taken out of class it is no longer a member of that class and the class rules do not apply. Logically then what races this non-class boat is eligible for depend on the NOR, and I know of no reason why the NOR cannot state that certain boats race alongside the Laser class rather than in a general handicap fleet. Edited by JimC - 22 Apr 17 at 8:34am |
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Paramedic ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
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Thats all it needs. And a PY for Laser manufactured hulls with substantially similar sails. Until someone tries to "optimise" the cut of their training sail I think everyone would be happy and it closes one of the two big avenues of Lasers being allowed to do stuff that noone else can. Changing rigs based on conditions is the other - one battle at a time :)
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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Changing rigs I do see on a regular basis, just assumed it was to do with reefing, never thought about it being a bit naughty.
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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It's only naughty if the class rules or NOR prohibits it. Windsurfers do it all the time (:
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sandgrounder ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 01 Apr 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 220 |
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This thread refers to Lasers. In Lasers rig switching is cheating, and also has a negative impact on PYs |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Its hardly cheating to sail one class in one race and another class in another race. It would only be cheating if you attempted to deceive the race committee about what you were sailing. If someone wants to come to our club Laser open and sail a Full rig in two races and a Radial rig in two races I don't see there's a problem, but the two boats will be scored separately. |
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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Yup, same at my home club.
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