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    Posted: 19 Jun 14 at 8:33am
Maybe that's where I'm missing the point. I'm not looking for a 'commercial' problem to solve at all.
 
I'm not too bothered how many new lasers are sold, so to me it doesn't need to compete with the sexy new classes. I'm more worried about my cheap boat being able to compete with the other 20 that race from my club. If there were dramatic changes, aimed at trying to compete with newer designs made of newer technology, if 5 out of the 20 bought the update it would spoil what we have.
 
 
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Originally posted by GarethT

 
 
Were you listening to Radio 4 on the way home yesterday?

No but I was this morning. Erno Rubik said (paraphrase) 'some people love it, some people hate it.  If you hate it the problem is not with the cube, it is with you'.

It made me think about this thread, and the Laser.  For a millisecond it seemed to be quite synonymous, but then I remembered... no one f**ks their knees up playing with a Rubik's Cube.  


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Have any of you read This other than the total nazification, that line about the angle of the dangle.. You couldn't make stuff like that up.

If you change the angle it would make it easy to sail - ffs!

Boys you can keep your Lasers and your silly rules, according to that I could null and void just about every race our Laser sailors enter..

What Planet are these people on?
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And from my experience in club laser sailing, the application of rule 42 would have far more of a field levelling impact than getting uber anal about the class rules.
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Originally posted by iGRF

Have any of you read This other than the total nazification, that line about the angle of the dangle.. You couldn't make stuff like that up.

If you change the angle it would make it easy to sail - ffs!

Boys you can keep your Lasers and your silly rules, according to that I could null and void just about every race our Laser sailors enter..

What Planet are these people on?

Ha ,ha, young Fuller!  think they wrote that just to cheer you up over breakfast!
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Originally posted by kneewrecker

Originally posted by GarethT

 
 
Were you listening to Radio 4 on the way home yesterday?

No but I was this morning. Erno Rubik said (paraphrase) 'some people love it, some people hate it.  If you hate it the problem is not with the cube, it is with you'.

It made me think about this thread, and the Laser.  For a millisecond it seemed to be quite synonymous, but then I remembered... no one f**ks their knees up playing with a Rubik's Cube.  
 
Thought you must've heard this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b046l7zr
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from grfs link i like this

The Race Committee (and the Jury) needs to identify your boat through your sail number:

  • if you're over the Start Line
  • when you cross the Finish line
  • if you are seen to infringe a Racing Rule
  • if you need to be identified for safety reasons
fair enough but then goes to say
 
Complete sail numbers: please don't try to be clever and come with 183 and think you'll be allowed to race. Bit dumb to do this anyway; apart from a blank sail I can't think what stands out more on the start line than a 3-digit sail-number

so they want sail numbers to identify you but you cant use a partial number because its too obvious  Wacko


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I'd just assumed that when you're a measurer in a class with nothing to actually measure you get a bit bored.
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Have Laser sailors always been stereotyped as cheaters?
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Originally posted by kneewrecker

Have Laser sailors always been stereotyped as cheaters?


Quite possibly, but from my experience of club handicap sailing, the boat has little to do with it - we have some people who push things, and I don't think currently any are in Lasers.

If it is happening in club fleet racing, then it is up to the fleet to decide what is cheating and what isn't, and then enforce it to that standard. Lasers seem to use more kinetics off the start line (judging by the instruction videos) than I'd think accepable, but if it a single class fleet, and they are all doing it, that surely that is OK? Now, when they do the same in a handicap race, maybe they should be protested?
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