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    Posted: 15 Aug 18 at 5:51pm
Too true JimC. 
My previous club and present would have and would welcome new blood. I'm lined up for Commodore come Nov and I'm not overrun with old farts hanging on or young blood wanting the job of Vice. 
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+1 JimC.   

Most old farts I know are hanging on way past their sell by date as no one else will take the job on. So when they eventually do come off the committee (and this especially applies to the real crap jobs like Commodore) no one ever sees them again as they are so relieved to get their lives back.

Personally I did about 10 years on my club committee doing most roles,  and I would never but never do that again. I've got a senior high level day job in a very competitive industry and it's a doddle compared to being commodore of  a sailing club !!   
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Most clubs I know, not official RYA data or the result of a Poll of every club in the UK, committee are set and hanging on for grim death, because only they know what's best for the club and its future even when the club is failing .
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Originally posted by 423zero

Most clubs I know, not official RYA data or the result of a Poll of every club in the UK, committee are set and hanging on for grim death, because only they know what's best for the club and its future even when the club is failing .
And not having to listen to people like you makes me very glad I am no longer on a committee. Too many whiny know alls who want to pontificate and let someone else mow the grass, organise the sailing programme and rota's, paint the clubhouse. clean the clubhouse. man (or woman) the galley and the 1001 other things that go to keep a club's doors open.

With the greatest of respect you don't seem to have a clue. Now if you've actually made a contribution to the sport I will apologise. 
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It would appear you are the know all, typical committee member, when questioned reply aggresively, you are giving an opinion of committee members based on experience, exactly the same has me, I am not however pretending it is official and not to be questioned.
I have made no worthwhile contribution to sailing, other than to participate and support boating industry buying equipment etc.
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Time you were Commodore 423zero, chuck your name in the hat you'll soon see why it's a thankless task.

I came very close to walking away from the whole bloody sailing mess after my 3 year stint.

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Slight typo on last post, should have said "typical know all committee member" apologies to all the decent committee members.
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iGRF,
I would like to have sat in one of your committee meetings
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Originally posted by JimC

In most clubs the old farts would dearly love to hand the whole lot over, but can't find anyone to hand over to.


Jim, I might be misrepresenting you but I take the gist of this to be the poor old selfless farts have been hung out to dry by the feckless, screen obsessed, young?  Wink

How would you explain my example of the canoe club above, surely it should be impossible if it's something fundamental to the outlook of different generations? 

Volunteer burnout is obviously a genuine issue, but I can't think of anywhere in the sport where there has been a long term, concerted effort to attract, train and retain adult beginners in significant amounts. As such it seems inevitable that the sport is unsustainable and that the situation is largely self inflicted.

If clubs, classes and our governing body made recruitment and retention their primary focus the sport might be in a better place, but we're all too easily distracted by the shiny, ultimately unimportant stuff of who won what or the latest 'me-too' class (or PY list...)  Confused








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