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    Posted: 07 Feb 16 at 5:48pm
Originally posted by ChrisB14

But doesn't your statement above already contain the answer? RS Vareo, RS 100 and D-One all do exactly that: increase their sail area once round the top mark. Losing some of the simplicity of a single hander of course. But yes, the *eros seem to be an option.

The Vareo is no more exciting to sail than a Solo, at least the one i sailed wasn't. It's a dog upwind and overpowered on the reaches in any kind of breeze. Useless for round the cans racing. Ive not sailed either of the others, but i suspect they fall into the same category - happy to be proven wrong. I also think that they are a bit too much of a fiddle once you turn the corner round the mark as most people i know only have one pair of hands! The 700 and the MPS are just too much boat for most people and are venue restrictive.

Keith, I wish you the very best with your venture and I do hope it works out. I'm sure you know only too well what you're up against!!
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Wood is good but the boat has to be the right shape to make the most of it. In a dinghy you need (unless you are sailing a Finn) the boat to be as rigid as possible. The OK is great for this as if you look at it as an engineering structure you have a deep box section between the sailor and the mast, excellent in torsion.

If you have something with a big open cockpit such as a phantom, solo, then you have to lock it up with tanks down each side and it's more complicated in shape, more joints, more panels maybe better for non wood composites.

The Minisail is another ideal boat to build from wood as it is a box with a very small hole cut in it. The ones that were flush decked (Monaco?) are even better.

So some boats are good for wood and some just aren't.

The next thing is epoxy and carbon. Frankly though it looks beautiful when finished, but the smell, the stickyness, the waste, the environmental impact, the dust hazzards, the unknown health hazzards. Skin cancer/lung cancer here we go!  Uck!!

This sort of material is really unatractive to work with.

So wood is good in the right place and can use a small amount of epoxy in a stitch and glue type system and get a nice result and limit your exposure to the stuff.

(BTW I have no love for styrene based resins, almost killed myself with them when much younger)

What I'd like is for a design specifically using the new polyurethane glues, less off gassing, easier clean up. Fewer environmental impacts, esier for Jo average to use, ie me.

A slightly wider OK  type wood be nice


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Originally posted by Paramedic

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The Vareo is no more exciting to sail than a Solo, at least the one i sailed wasn't. It's a dog upwind and overpowered on the reaches in any kind of breeze. Useless for round the cans racing.....


The Vareo is not the fastest thing on the planet, but the people who sail them round the cans at our club seem to enjoy it. It wouldn't be my choice, but neither would 95% of the singlehanders which seem to offer nothing in the way of USP.
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Originally posted by JimC

  There's some ideas being worked out with pre laminated foam/carbon panels too.


What? Like an artificial plywood? Where can I find out more?
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Read up about Clive Everest's boat on the Cherub website, also the flatpack IC project http://icflatpack.blogspot.co.uk/2008_09_01_archive.html
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