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    Posted: 31 Dec 07 at 7:22pm
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Originally posted by BBSCFaithfull

Glad to see that the 14s had good success. Even when they're in the slowest conditions for the class 

Isn't it slow conditions for every class


not for the Thames A rater


I guess, i was expecting the 12 footer guys to reply with "Not with our no 1 rig with 1000 square meter sails"
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Originally posted by MRJP BUZZ 585

Originally posted by ratface

Originally posted by MRJP BUZZ 585

Originally posted by BBSCFaithfull

Glad to see that the 14s had good success. Even when they're in the slowest conditions for the class 

Isn't it slow conditions for every class


not for the Thames A rater


I guess, i was expecting the 12 footer guys to reply with "Not with our no 1 rig with 1000 square meter sails"

 

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Originally posted by BBSCFaithfull

Glad to see that the 14s had good success. Even when they're in the slowest conditions for the class 

Yes well done Howard and Adam, just goes to show that Tynemouth is the premier racing club of the North East.
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Made the Merlin h'cap look pretty favorable ...
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No Rick - we've discussed the rights and wrongs of certain handicaps on here before. My opinion was similar to yours - but people far more knowledgeable than us explained how it's apparently all perfectly fair. So despite geting 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th, in the GGP there is clearly absolutely nothing wrong with the handicap of the Merlin.

Maybe there isn't - maybe it's all the others that are wrong and so need increasing by 10%

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Originally posted by Hector

No Rick - we've discussed the rights and wrongs of certain handicaps on here before. My opinion was similar to yours - but people far more knowledgeable than us explained how it's apparently all perfectly fair. So despite geting 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th, in the GGP there is clearly absolutely nothing wrong with the handicap of the Merlin.

Maybe there isn't - maybe it's all the others that are wrong and so need increasing by 10%

I stand corrected

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Originally posted by Hector

So despite geting 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th, in the GGP there is clearly absolutely nothing wrong with the handicap of the Merlin.

The top three merlins included guys who finished 2nd and 7th in the merlin nationals, the RS200s present didn't finish in the top 20 I think. Who would you expect to win?
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Hector

So despite geting 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th, in the GGP there is clearly absolutely nothing wrong with the handicap of the Merlin.

The top three merlins included guys who finished 2nd and 7th in the merlin nationals, the RS200s present didn't finish in the top 20 I think. Who would you expect to win?

... and the winner I think finished 19th ...

We all know crew skill factor is the most important element in any race but the Merlins do have a very nice h'cap.

At WYC they are dropped to 1000 and still do very well on h'cap.
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the joys of handicap racing, the endless arguments afterwards!
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Thankyou to GWSC for a well run event.  thanks also to the PRO for shortening when the wind went walk about.....

Oh yes, and thankyou for finally setting a course on which we could actually beat the F/balls....!  Presumably we'll be safely back to getting slaughtered on PY by the bloody mary....

Only kidding, great events all...and decent prizes too....just tucking into mine now!

 

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