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    Posted: 10 Apr 20 at 4:27pm
Is that the Rondar Icon derivative intended for the US market?  Is there any news on that front?  Looks good by the way!
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Originally posted by iGRF

Put the forestay behind the kite chute. Seems an obvious solution that most dinghy designers fail to spot.

It was a very common config in the early days of kite chutes, and you'll see it on a few classes still. Merlins for example. There are significant disadvantages though, which is why most classes have changed to having it further aft.

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Switching tacks? Presumably it would foul forestay.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Apr 20 at 6:55pm
Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by iGRF

Put the forestay behind the kite chute. Seems an obvious solution that most dinghy designers fail to spot.

It was a very common config in the early days of kite chutes, and you'll see it on a few classes still. Merlins for example. There are significant disadvantages though, which is why most classes have changed to having it further aft.

Significant disadvantages? Maybe on symmetrics where you need to recover the kite after the pole, not that I've got much of a clue about that ancient world, but Assyms? Can't see any, quite the opposite in fact, the kite needs to be close to the pole as it retracts. I have though often postulated about an alternative hybrid system between assym and sym using maybe a dangly pole so a system could be contrived to use round cans on lakes for a single hander, not fully thought it right through yet but I'm sure there must be a way.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Cirrus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Apr 20 at 9:48am

Is that the Rondar Icon derivative intended for the US market? .....

 In short and in part 'yes' and this hull was the first out of the tooling - as a sailing test bed.  The new tooling can/could also supply the 2-sail Icon segment if there is demand with a different ‘population’ of parts and fittings.   It would even be possible as a prospective owner to switch between 2 and 3 sail modes’ in a couple of hours.  The underwater side is identical but the deck arrangements have many many refinements.  We learnt a hell of a lot from the original Icon, not least that the basics were far too good to be allowed to somehow ‘fail’ at the initial attempt.  In reality it is obviously not realistic to put a time scale on anything much at the moment, at least not yet .. and thank goodness the project was effectively 'frozen' a little way back due then to brexit trading uncertainty. ...).   Does not stop us dreaming and we all need a few of those at the moment..  

 
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Any reason you didnt keep the gnav for the current iteration?
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Any reason you didnt keep the gnav for the current iteration?

The boat is a test bed... Advantages both ways as ever but nothing 'works' quite trying out all options and then making a decision.  It is too easy to rush to market having made assumptions on what is 'best'... time spend checking is no luxury.  


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'Hybrid' moved to Burghfield earlier today .... prior to first water test planned for later this week.  We can all manage without formal racing for a while ...  anyway first task to to check basics and general 'balance' ....    It could be a long summer



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Post Options Post Options   Quote ttc546 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 20 at 5:32pm
Originally posted by Cirrus

'Hybrid' moved to Burghfield earlier today .... prior to first water test planned for later this week.  We can all manage without formal racing for a while ...  anyway first task to to check basics and general 'balance' ....    It could be a long summer
Very nice boat. Following your progress. Thumbs Up
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Looking forward to seeing video of sailing, especially with a Blaze "sailing in company"!
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