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E.J. ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 19 Feb 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 184 |
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Zeon, I could’nt agree more. On a slight side note I will miss AP, not for its access but the grandeur of the building, I think it elevated Dinghy sailing and made the scene appear more polished and professional than its previous homes, it also provided a clear focal point for non sailing people to get involved in a pleasant environment.
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Dougaldog ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 05 Nov 10 Location: hamble Online Status: Offline Posts: 356 |
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Those who know the style of my jottings will remember that if I mention the RYA, the expectation is that I'll be saying something negative, a fan boy I'm not!! But in this case I do think that there are comments being made in this thread that just don't stack up against reality. If doing a dinghy themed show was so easy, there would be others, but in all my travels I see nothing like it elsewhere. What's more, it is an ongoing success...those random people that I button-holed at the show (I aimed for as much a representative cross section as I could get, just picking people by eye) all seemed to have had an enjoyable experience. Unlike the many comments on here that start with "I think" the hard evidence is that the RYA get this more right than they get it wrong. Some of their data mining is quite clever and little is done without good reason and the amount of work that they put in to make the 'best for the most' is certainly impressive. Of course, there will be those who don't like the location, the content.... the commercial aspect, the price of food and drink.... we all know that there is plenty to moan about BUT - at the same time, it is also something to be celebrated. As one who worked the early shows, Pickett's Lock and Crystal Palace, then all but two of the Shows at AP, my viewpoint is that the Show has changed because the sport itself has changed. Back in the early days, so much of what went on was on the basis of a cottage industry, I don't think I ever had a receipt for anything, it was all done on word and trust because we all knew each other. Jim C was so right...back then you could host the show in an overgrown sports hall and nobody thought it lacking in presence nor facilities. Today the expectations are so much higher, commercialism is so deeply entrenched that it is now at the heart of what goes on (not just boats but people too...Rule 26 (?), which covered amateur status was being firmly enforced - I had to take my jacket of as it bore a 'commercial' logo, Barry Dunning got into hot water with Javelin Jackets)....so the changing nature of the show is simply a reflection of life today and the different place that sailing occupies within it. Will the Dinghy Show of the future be different again? Yes of course it will, because things will continue to change - but to what extent, who can tell. But for now, a successful show, one that continues the decades long run of widely acclaimed success, should stand the move to Farnborough - or to anywhere else, without any less of the things that don't only make it special, but well nigh unique in the wider dinghy world. Dougal
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zeon ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 20 Aug 16 Online Status: Offline Posts: 316 |
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When I first heard the news of the show moving my first knee jerk reaction was to be against it . But after listening to the reasons for the change and already having my class stop going because of the cost , I am coming round to the idea. Fingers crossed it addresses some of the current problems with the show and is a success going forward .
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KazRob ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Oct 16 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 245 |
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The jewellery stand was run by the wife of the MD of Harken UK and she does lovely jewellery based around sailing with things like bracelets with mini Harken blocks on them, necklaces with mini winches or silver boats on them (inc one with the Finn which must be heavy ![]() I guess if your other half is at the show all weekend running the Harken stand, and you've got a business based around sailors, why wouldn't you get a stand?
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E.J. ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 19 Feb 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 184 |
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It’s not a case of things not belonging, it’s a commercial show so Id expect that side of the industry to be present. the show has changed from being stands with dinghies on and chandler’s to an increase in the industry enablers such as insurance/ holiday companies/outboard motors/RIBs/paddle boards/Volvo having larger stands, all relevant but not exactly the primary reason for the show. Again, not bad but different and I hope the move attracts more of the CAs back to show. |
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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They do, a base CA stand just big enough for a boat is significantly cheaper than a trade stand. Then you have extras like carpet, any furniture you want, TV if you want some nice pictures/video running, power.
Its very easy to run up a £2k bill before you even think about getting a boat there and then having people on the stand all weekend. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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I guess if associations drop out, it simply becomes a trade show like many other pastimes have, which then folds when the profit disappears. At which point companies like RS go to more general outdoor shows to sell to new blood, competing with caravans, climbing and sup.
Leaving us with the virtual world to show grass roots sailing still exists. |
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polc1410 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 147 |
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Lots of non-dinghy stands?
What did I miss!! Only 1 stand that made me think "really?" Was a jewellery stand... I have no idea what they were doing there. I assume they have some link to sailing in the family but I don't see the reason to spend presumably £1500 on a stand! What else did you feel didn't belong? |
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E.J. ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 19 Feb 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 184 |
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As CA member I’ve been around this particular buoy , about 10 years ago the CA has to buy a stand at the show just to show it was alive. I remember everyone thinking that if we chose not to go it would signal the decline of the class and start down the slippery slope of losing the critical mass, so from that point of view the show had us and every other strong CA.
Around this time I recall the Phants who are a very strong association decided not to bother, and it had little impact on them. ( apart from saving circa £1500). From that point every year more decided not to bother, we took this view as well and threw in with our builder instead, which is ok but not the same for the visitors. To my mind the rightbprice to the CAs is critical to ensure the show feels like a true representation of the Dinghy scene. That feel has been my main concern about the show, and this time was the worst, fewer dinghy classes, more industry/commercial stands and most worrying lots of non Dinghy stands taking up vast swathes of floor space, making it feel like the RY A was desperate to fill the room.. If Farnborough reverses this trend it will be worth the extra 25min in the car. |
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tink ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 16 Location: North Hants Online Status: Offline Posts: 789 |
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People could get at 20% discount if they brought a boat bit and there was an area that Over the weekend iGRF and a team of volunteers could build a bandit Laser crushing Franken boat. The venue would need to be near water so the finale would be iGRF Sailing off into the sunset chasing a brace of Lasers.
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