Dinghy Show 2017

Be warned, it doesn't always work out, ditching your sport mates for the new parents of daughters friends, that can get bloody as time goes on trust me.. Big upheavals when they all go to different big schools or if you have daughters then one of them gets a boy in the mix, parents of boys don't mix with parents of girls, not for long..

Originally posted by iGRF ...... Your RS600 is currently shown faster than perhaps it should be given it's specs, I'd have it at 933. at the required crew weight (120kgs) it's tricky because of the racks and the leverage, put a normal weight crew say 90kgs into the mix and you get 901, but doubtful they could handle 12.2 mtrs once it got 'interesting', the boat is over canvassed.

In my experience the 600 can sail to 920, at least in that window of 6 months between getting competent on it and cashing it in for an MPS. Many (inc me) don't fully get competent before being drawn back to something easier.
Depends somewhat on the course, it suffers on a dead run, but is a weapon on the reaches of a 'random harbour tour'. There are of course few things to sensibly benchmark the 600 against. The list of kiteless boats you'll find on the same leg of the course being sparse.
Whether it's fairly 900 or 930 is academic when nearly all the alternatives are lumbering around in the 'medium' fleet with 4 digit PYs.
Is it over canvassed?
Surely if so, it would pay to use the reefing facility a lot more?
Don't forget it has a wide rack option for the undernourished.

In my view, a boat with significant flaws but a useful benchmark of 'progress' since last century?


Edited by RS400atC - 22 Feb 17 at 3:01pm

Originally posted by RS400atC [QUOTE=iGRF].......Is it over canvassed?

That's obviously a question of when, but in my search for ultimate truth, it gets back to what we used to call the Force Four barrier in the Original windsurfing days, something that got eliminated with other tricks, but illustrates the point at which sailing becomes increasingly shall we say 'interesting' for anyone beyond that weight over ten = sail size in sq mtrs. and every gust over force four increases the power by 50% to double. So if you weigh less than 120 kilos and are not totally proficient getting on that wire and out on those racks, you are going to have problems with a 12.2 sq mtr sail as the wind moves above Force 4.

In my case I have problems particularly more so with fixed rigs, if I use a sail bigger than 7.5 in that scenario and since my boat of joy sports an 8.5 I'm sh*t out of luck at anything above 15 knots, but I figure a Trapeze would, like a windsurfer give me just a little more high end as it does with an 8.5 on a board.

So that Fire rig, or the Farr rig and a wire do seem a bit of a better option for use on the sea.

Originally posted by Cirrus ... Slightly more seriously your spreadsheet is not far out as to a likely PN for 'Fire' (This is NOT an endorsement of your calcs btw - it might just spit this one out coincidentally) ... RYA don't seem to have any numbers (yet) and GL handicappers are provisionally applying a (slightly punitive) trial number of  '1050' - most clubs that are prepared to use their own brains seem to centre around a local figure of  '1065'ish  - so Supernova / Aero 7 country.

Trouble is, a lot of racing is below F4 and the only way you are going to get a PY of below 950 on a single sail rig is to have a big sail. It is a shame that reefing 600-style was not copied. Perhaps on a class with choice of sails, allowing reefs of smaller increments would be interesting?
Maybe what we are avoiding saying is that no one single hander class can cover even a 2-sigma variation of adult helm sizes?