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    Posted: 31 Oct 16 at 5:46pm
Originally posted by zippyRN



 Proof Positive of Messers Dunning and Kruger's work ...Your attitude , actiosn and words  do not match  the assertions you make. 


I should think you would be well aware of their work the presumptions you make.

So tell me... show me an actual case of a gay person being discriminated against in the sailing world and I'm not interested in banter, show me something that has happened to cause someone real and genuine stress, not confected offence.

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Originally posted by iGRF

'He' is no longer a flag officer of any club or organisation thank God and as one of the more tolerant of the gay community folk in his particular world, he finds it particularly offensive to be called 'bigot' etc by morons on a sailing website for the simple expedient of putting the argument those who have lived through five decades of increasing tolerance thereto, that the lgbt gong is being banged too often and frankly isn't needed where there is no case for it.

It would be better to consider racism than homophobia in sailing since it is far more evident, I have no idea wether or not there are gay folk in either of my clubs I neither ask nor care, nor when on the beach or break do I cast around for pink attire. But as a community, sailing v say wind or kite surfing, there are far less black or coloured faces, no positive discrimination either to redress that issue.

Politics has no place in sport and the machinations of stonewall types make me sick to the stomach frankly, of all the gay folk of my acquaintance and there are quite a few, none of them ask nor expect anything other than to be considered as an ordinary player in life, they would be embarrassed by positive discrimination if they thought for one moment their position was being promoted by it for whatever reason.

Yes there may still be discrimination in other worlds, morons on football terraces, rednecks or skinheads in bars in the wrong part of town, but then those sort are just as likely to rail against all manner of decent activities and types for the sheer wilfulness of it, so no in my world it doesn't exist, hasn't for a long time now, hence the feeling at ease to poke fun on occasion, nothing I wouldn't do to their faces.

And pray tell is there a minimum height requirement for priesthood? That would be ironic.


 Proof Positive of Messers Dunning and Kruger's work ...

Your attitude , actiosn and words  do not match  the assertions you make. 

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I wonder who deleted it?  It was so hugely offensive I was in danger of reporting it, not to the moderators, but the police.  Hate crime has to be stamped on wherever it occurs.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote transient Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 16 at 4:09pm
Originally posted by iGRF

as one of the more tolerant of the gay community folk in his particular world, 



tolerate
ˈtɒləreɪt/
  1. allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one dislikes or disagrees with) without interference.


    You might want to swap that word for "accepting" or then again.....


    Thank goodness your last post was deleted.


Edited by transient - 31 Oct 16 at 4:12pm
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I think you've defined it well enough in your third sentence. 
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Originally posted by winging it

but I believe that society is policing itself to force the perpetrators into the closet, rather than the victims.


Very well put. Problem comes when those in power reverse the process, as we are seeing with xenophobia currently.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote transient Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 16 at 2:42pm
Could someone define case study. I thought it had to based on factual data/information. A work of fiction is not a case study.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote transient Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 16 at 2:31pm
I'll add, if the case study is false, which I personally doubt, then not only are the RYA dealing with the issue clumsily, they also need to get their arse in gear and present a strategy that is at least plausible otherwise it won't be effective.

BTW a sport England Survey Reports that the percentage of Gay and Lesbian folk participating in sport is significantly higher than the general population national average, 9% higher in fact at 45%
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Post Options Post Options   Quote winging it Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 16 at 2:19pm
Personally I think it's dreadful.  Have a look at this link, it shows the RYA to be a leader in promoting equality across our sport:

http://www.rya.org.uk/about-us/rya-policies/Pages/equality.aspx





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Originally posted by winging it

The case study isn't 'falsified' it's a 'what if' role play, designed to help clubs understand the discrimination some groups might face if they do not have decent equality policies in place.  It's a training video with the scenario created by the RYA.

then imho, it's counterproductive and draws unnecessary attention to a problem that hasn't knowingly happened.... but that's just an opinion, I'm sure someone at the RYA thought it was great idea.  
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