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| Rossiter Pintail Mortagne sur Gironde, near Bordeaux |
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JimC 
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 Topic: In or Out?Posted: 15 Jun 16 at 12:23pm |
Has the Recreational Craft Directive been forgotten already? Edited by JimC - 15 Jun 16 at 12:26pm |
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Presuming Ed
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Posted: 15 Jun 16 at 12:13pm |
Plus, Norway & Switzerland accept higher levels of EU immigrants than we do as part of access to the single market. chances of a better deal than that?
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iGRF
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Posted: 15 Jun 16 at 12:13pm |
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think they've made a start on the trailers, didn't I read that here? |
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Jack Sparrow
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Posted: 15 Jun 16 at 11:44am |
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Presuming Ed
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Posted: 15 Jun 16 at 11:08am |
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And if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
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fab100
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We may think our politicians are a contemptible bunch (I'm with PJ O'Rourke who identified that the people who go on to become politicians were the ones we'd classify as 'interfering tw@ts' at school, remember them?) They've got worse since schooldays, not better.
But lets look at some of the European ones over the years. Berlusconi, any French president you can think of, the loony fascist who marginally failed becoming Austrian president recently, the eejits the poor Greeks have had to put up with and many more. But worse, the really powerful ones are tantamount to invisible, being faceless, unelected, irremovable Commissioners like Juncker. Luckily, the EU Commission has not yet started interfering in the dinghies we sail but given their way, can anyone imagine they'd be anything other than in hoc to the lobbyists for some Euro/French equivalent of Performance Sailcraft, creating enough regulation to put all our small but brilliant boat-builders out of business?
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Posted: 15 Jun 16 at 9:51am |
an effective or at the very least, tacit mandate to Brussels for ever closer union on the unelected 'EU junckernaught'. vote leave- it's the only way to maintain the status quo, or nearest we have to it.... - no schengen - no single currency - no unified welfare state and healthcare system - no unified military capacity connected directly to economic drivers (NATO is independent) - a democracy (not perfect, but at least a democracy) - a sense of self determination and common law ethics, fundamentally opposed to corporate cronyism and tax avoidance - no enforced blocks, embargoes and trade tariffs with emerging markets that we don't want, just because they are not located in Europe - an innovative outlook that acknowledges cultural difference and diversity as positive attributes that define product and service offerings across most markets and sectors - an assumption that we can trade product, service and human resource with the rest of the world based on supply / demand economic policies- especially with commonwealth countries with strong cultural ties vote leave! Edited by turnturtle - 15 Jun 16 at 10:25am |
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jeffers
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Posted: 15 Jun 16 at 8:48am |
All the MEPs in Brussels are elected just not in the UK. If you want unelected officials just look at the House of Lords.
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Paul
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Presuming Ed
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Any evidence about innovation? Numbers of patents etc?
But in general, that's the sort of ridiculous assertation that makes me cry. Did you not read the FT this morning?
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craiggo
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It's a very tough question, especially given the lack of real facts, but we have become a very risk averse nation and I think that has crushed our ability to truly innovate. Perhaps a leave vote will allow us to move into being a more progressive, forward thinking nation rather than dwelling on past successes.
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