Dinghy Show 2017

Yep agreed James. Always went just to see the latest canoe, moth and other development boats. Let's face it seeing a laser or aero every year is not very interesting.

F101 on the Harken stand.

Originally posted by iGRF Originally posted by Cirrus Blaze Fire = 8.8m sail areaBut please 'No' GRF - we are certainly not recommending it for you - it really would not be your cup of tea ! Not on a boat that weighs 72 kgs I agree even sailing off 1070 (What my spreadsheet suggests it should be), Now if the hull weighed 50 kgs had a trapeze and sailed off 1033 as a result, well that would be interesting.

Why wouldn't such a beast rate about 920 or whatever a 600 rates this week?

Originally posted by RS400atC Originally posted by iGRF Originally posted by Cirrus Blaze Fire = 8.8m sail areaBut please 'No' GRF - we are certainly not recommending it for you - it really would not be your cup of tea ! Not on a boat that weighs 72 kgs I agree even sailing off 1070 (What my spreadsheet suggests it should be), Now if the hull weighed 50 kgs had a trapeze and sailed off 1033 as a result, well that would be interesting. Why wouldn't such a beast rate about 920 or whatever a 600 rates this week?

That's because that particular Frankenboat was based on a Blaze, if it were based on a Contender with a hull weight no different to current just an 8.8 sail then it should sail off 1002 if they dropped the hull weight to say 50 kgs, then it would sail off somewhere around 966. Your RS600 is currently shown faster than perhaps it should be given it's specs, I'd have it at 933. at the required crew weight (120kgs) it's tricky because of the racks and the leverage, put a normal weight crew say 90kgs into the mix and you get 901, but doubtful they could handle 12.2 mtrs once it got 'interesting', the boat is over canvassed.

Edited by iGRF - 22 Feb 17 at 2:26pm

Not on a boat that weighs 72 kgs I agree even sailing off 1070 (What my spreadsheet suggests it should be), Now if the hull weighed 50 kgs had a trapeze and sailed off 1033 as a result, well that would be interesting.

Phew - said you would not like it !  (But for information only now the hull complete but ex wing system and corrector weights does weigh ... wait for it, wait for it  just about 51kg).  If you want a trapeze just get on with it buy a Farr 3.9 - there is nothing else 'standard' that might do for real 'light-weights' who want to dangle around on a bit of spare rigging for the amusement of others... great upwind but those reaches might be interesting in proper waves in a short hull (presumably this will all be done for laughs)... and you don't want to 'customise' (ie most likely RUIN !)  a perfectly good standard class boat. 

Slightly more seriously your spreadsheet is not far out as to a likely PN for 'Fire' (This is NOT an endorsement of your calcs btw - it might just spit this one out coincidentally) ... RYA don't seem to have any numbers (yet) and GL handicappers are provisionally applying a (slightly punitive) trial number of  '1050' - most clubs that are prepared to use their own brains seem to centre around a local figure of  '1065'ish  - so Supernova / Aero 7 country.