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    Posted: 25 Feb 14 at 8:53pm
Drylander, one moment you are saying the handicap has dropped because of the good sailors, the next that they don't do much handicap racing. That makes no sense.

The arguement that a dropping handicap is wrong because your particular boat hasn't changed is a spurious one. It is based on results from every boat that is handicap racing (and sending returns) when related to every other boat. It must be that the advances in rigging and construction over the last 20 years have made the boat faster, even if the basic design has been pretty static. The same applies to Solos.
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Originally posted by Time Lord

Why would iGRF sail a Solo? On the principle of if you can't beat them then join them? I'm sure you'd enjoy one on your lake but not on the sea.

I tried one, someone crashed into me, it broke, I very nearly had to buy it, but the offender who crashed into me and I have agreed to pay for it to be repaired, did I enjoy it? There were spiders in it, I don't much like spiders, all my life I've had to put up with removing them from hysterical daughters bedrooms, pretending I don't mind picking them up, now I've reached an age where I'm beginning to not have to do things i don't much like, like sailing solo's with spiders in them..
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They don't HAVE to have spiders in them... well, no more than any other boat - mine always seem to have a few hanging around, even the plastic boats.
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Laser to change by 2 points again........
Which is about half a bad tack and not even enough time to stop concentrating and eat a mars bar for 5 seconds!
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Posts: 6499 		Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 14 at 9:48pm
No Spiders in my EPS, nor any other boat I've ever sailed, somehow it seemed to me to be perfectly natural that a Solo would have spiders resident in it, it's made of wood, spiders clearly like wood, I bet all wood boats have spiders in them, another good reason to avoid them like the plague.
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Good sign, spiders in a boat ! They only like dry places so the boat is likely to be dry and therefore lighter.
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Originally posted by craiggo

Please, please, please drop the Miracle handicap from 1200 to something sensible like 1130

Miracles at WSC are lucky to get in the top half of the fleet in all-classes races, even on 1200.  A beat against the tide and they're toast.
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Originally posted by iGRF

a Solo ... made of wood,
Not a state of the art Solo, then.
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I predict that many of the classes will have the same or very similar change this year as last year.
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The 2014 PY numbers are on RYA website already.
Look at the list of downloads on the right hand side of the page.
 
Streakers down by 7. Doh!
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