Projection 762 Help please?

   just found this  http://www.cheap4ferries.com/ferry_search_results.aspx
for 5 people car and trailer, works out to be £138 each, return.
not bad, reckon a budget of a grand is the usual for a weeks sailing holiday. so it still leaves £862, entry fee (guessing about £50 each)  then you can stay on the boat for free, sounds like a bargain!  
just need to find a grand though!  Anyone wishing to sponsor me and my mates to get drunk and possibly sail  send me a PM!  

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Oli Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 23 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1020	Post Options Post Reply Quote Oli Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Projection 762 Help please? Posted: 31 Oct 07 at 12:43pm
	just found this http://www.cheap4ferries.com/ferry_search_results.aspx for 5 people car and trailer, works out to be £138 each, return. not bad, reckon a budget of a grand is the usual for a weeks sailing holiday. so it still leaves £862, entry fee (guessing about £50 each) then you can stay on the boat for free, sounds like a bargain! just need to find a grand though! Anyone wishing to sponsor me and my mates to get drunk and possibly sail send me a PM!
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DOUGk911 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Groupie Joined: 23 Nov 06 Location: Blyth , Northumberland Online Status: Offline Posts: 65	Post Options Post Reply Quote DOUGk911 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 31 Oct 07 at 1:31pm
	Stay on the boat ! brave boy ! What if its windy or raining and cold ... would that not be miserable ? my boat is generally wet below after sailing , also seems to take a long time to dry out . I did get a couple of crystal type dehumidifiers from Aldi recently and they seem to work v well , only 4-99 each I think . Thanks for doing homework on ferry though , Doug .

TimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Posting king Joined: 18 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 153	Post Options Post Reply Quote TimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 31 Oct 07 at 9:38pm
	We've no idea where we're going to go just yet - so much to cost up! We want somewhere with good racing, hopefully some projections and that's also a good holiday venue. Planning on bringing a bit of an entourage to keep all the non-sailing girlfriends sweet. Staying on the boat - did this at Burnham Week and it was excellent but only because a) the weather was amazing and b) we had a mothership next door with all the gear on and we lobbed sleeping bags and cushions in it first thing next morning. If anybody here hasn't slept in one the bunks are MASSIVE - much bigger than on the 35 footer we had next door. Wouldn't do it if we didn't have that exact combination of circumstances though. You make a really good point about class choice Doug. I've been meaning to ask what you thought about cowes because you did sportsboat didn't you? I notice that Pink Gin won one of the IRC classes at Falmouth Week even though there was also a sportsboat class. I've never raced under SBR but we're doing pretty well in IRC at the moment and our failures are more down to our ability rather than the rule in question. Especially as the Proj isn't an out and out sportsboat.
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chic Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 20 Dec 06 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 146	Post Options Post Reply Quote chic Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 07 at 9:21am
	'What class to sail in' is a constant problem for us; so far we've always opted for sailing with the faster yachts rather than with the sportsboats. The 762 seems to fall pretty much between two camps but on balance we've felt that it has more in common with a displacement yacht than say an SB3. There has been some controversy on the Forth because in the two biggest regattas the sportsboat class has had to be abandoned due to lack of entries and 707s, SB3s etc then sailing with the 'fast yachts' (we use PY for class racing here); there is even some talk of forcing some boats to sail in the sportsboat class - the old question then arises 'what is a sportsboat?'. But that is a well-covered thread in other forums. This is no doubt a topic that will come up during your ecsw meeting in Edinburgh, Doug - you have been warned! I'm curious to know whether you'll use PY for ecsw at Blyth... If so you'll have to contend with our harsh handicap of 873. I feel we sailed well this year at the Forth's ecsw but we didn't manage anything better than a 10th.

Oli Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 23 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1020	Post Options Post Reply Quote Oli Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 07 at 9:47am
	sleeping onboard will be fine, watching Ray Mears over the years has given me the tools i need to survive! think class 4 would be the best bet, during the season we have found our performace is better against larger yachts than it is againts big dinghys (Sports boats). Burnham week and Sail East at Dabchicks proved that. We'll have to see though because there is a lot of events on the cards at the moment, Burnham week, Sail East, club racing, so budget and time permitting..... Chic your handicap is incredible, we sail off 901! i wouldnt even bother with yours! surely they will change it to reflect your results over a season? Edited by slop_idol
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DOUGk911 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Groupie Joined: 23 Nov 06 Location: Blyth , Northumberland Online Status: Offline Posts: 65	Post Options Post Reply Quote DOUGk911 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 07 at 11:16am
	ECSW next year will be under our NERR system . Its local , we are not allowed to view how it works , we are also sure there is a "fiddle factor " for measurers to play with . If a boat does well the h'cap gets worse , unless of course you are a handicapper ! They are attacking sportsboats a lot at present ...playing with keels at the moment etc ... as the h'cappers don't sail SB's they are not really popular with them and they keep coming up with stuff to help displacement yachts ? This is only my opinion of course . However NERR does seem to look at SBR and IRC numbers to make sure they are not too far out . At Cowes it was mainly light airs so we struggled a bit ( we were also learning the area, tides etc .. ) , once we got a bit of breeze we faired better .There were some really quick local J80's though .. some good sailers no doubt , better than we were ,we had to sail v close to shore on occasions , found rocks once , the locals did really well here , the IRC classes were kept in deeper water and would not of had the same prob I guess .. this would have suited us better . The only thing with IRC class to make me think is a busier startline with much heavier boats than us ! Overall I suspect it would have been a better choice perhaps . The PY system on the forth is not popular with visiting yachts from our area . We could sleep on board , I have done , its just the ammount of "stuff" to clear in morning , and all those spare sails etc .. you tend to take to away matches, it all would not fit in my truck .We have girlies on our crew also ... you know how much stuff they will need for a week! Doug .

chic Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 20 Dec 06 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 146	Post Options Post Reply Quote chic Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 07 at 11:49am
	We're averaging about 890 which seems closer to your handicap... However what we achieve is closely related to the amount of breeze; planing conditions will allow us to improve considerably, but in light winds we're close to the back of the fleet. We managed a third a couple of weeks ago which is the best we've done for a while! It's what you'd expect, I suppose... Yes, in theory the handicap committee will adjust our rating to reflect an extra season's data. I'd be grateful for anyone else's PY ratings; I can use it as evidence that we're being unfairly hit.

garth weaver Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 09 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 74	Post Options Post Reply Quote garth weaver Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 05 Nov 07 at 7:55pm
	We sail off 880 in Helford, which is a bit harsh. We used to sail under both PY and IRC at the same time and had a v good comparison. We were about 90 seconds worse off under PY compared to IRC on a 1.5 hour race. I reckon PY 900 is fair for a P762.

chic Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 20 Dec 06 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 146	Post Options Post Reply Quote chic Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 06 Nov 07 at 10:35pm
	Thanks Garth, I'll add your info to the dossier.. Chic

DOUGk911 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Groupie Joined: 23 Nov 06 Location: Blyth , Northumberland Online Status: Offline Posts: 65	Post Options Post Reply Quote DOUGk911 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 06 Nov 07 at 10:50pm
	Hey Chic , had an interesting ECSW meeting last sat . Handicaps did come up ! Jim Scott certainly puts what seems a lot of work in to his system . He's keen to have a conversion system from PY to NERR , don't know how that will work , I'm going to keep my head down and mouth shut . Some people sound pretty peed off with your PY system , I know when our boats travel north its a hot topic ... some boat.. " Jezabel " or something creates a lot of comment ? I wonder who She belongs to ? From all I see I think I would be most happy sailing under IRC , however .... ECSW 2008 is well in hand , we look forward to welcoming some Scottish folk . Doug .