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rogue 
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 Topic: League of Snooty S.C'sPosted: 20 Sep 11 at 1:38pm |
Yep- had the same thing happen at Royal Burnham YC during Burnham Week- fortunately the Corinthian had a more tolerant approach to serving underage drinkers. 
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AndrewLB
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Posted: 20 Sep 11 at 11:53am |
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Well I can do both Rupert's "clubs that are good" and GRF's "clubs that hate you" categories.
Everywhere you go people tell you that Hayling is snooty and cliquey. I arrived there as a relative unknown 10 years ago having never been there before with a brand new 700 straight from chandlers ford. Within half an hour a couple of guys had offered to help unpack & rig it with me. Maybe it helped that I'd turned up with the growth class du jour but within a couple of weeks I felt part of the club. The staff are all really helpful and a good proportion of the fleet can be found in the bar afterwards discussing technique and tactics. I'm always surprised at the accusations of snobbery and wonder why it is that some people don't seem to feel welcome; are they intimidated? Is it the fact that sailing in the harbour requires a good year's worth of experience to know the marks and the tide? Who knows? At the other end of the scale... A group of us had decided to try something different from our usual abersoch summer jaunt and decided to do Camel week instead. On the first evening we went to the club for a drink after racing to be told "I'm sorry but it's members only this evening". During their open summer regatta! Mental. Maybe they could tell we were from Wolverhampton but there was a real sense of being looked at down noses all week despite acquitting ourselves quite well on the water. Maybe it's moved on but it was very unwelcoming in 1997 and we didn't go back. |
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Rupert
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Posted: 20 Sep 11 at 9:29am |
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As has been said, any club can seem unwelcoming if you catch the wrong person, and very welcoming if you catch the right one.
Clubs which have their race hut where the public can wander by have an interesting problem - they must get fed up with daft questions from grockles, but at the same time should keep a friendly face on or end up having their reputation tarnished on the internet, and causing the reputation of sailing to be tarnished in the wider community.
When in America last year, we went to a fantastic sailing club down West Virginia way. It was a Monday afternoon, so really didn't expect anybody to be there, just thought we'd look at the water and the boats. However, there were people there, the bar was open, we were bought drinks (and told, no we weren't allowed to buy, as not members, so the drinks were on them), the kids played on the enormous pirate ship they had on the shore, and we spent several great hours there. All in all, a very welcoming experience, and one I at least try and emulate at Whitefriars when visitors come down, and least to a small extent.
I think I would far rather see a list of clubs on here that people have been made to feel welcome at than one naming clubs at which they had a bad experience, which could be a one off. Mind, so could a good experience, I guess!
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Rockhopper
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Posted: 20 Sep 11 at 8:27am |
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Hmmm its funny really if my home club Broadstairs Is so rubbish then how come the guy who has just bought my vareo (oh and he comes from hythe) wants to sail the rest of season here at the very club you are moaning about.Still at least some of the hythe sailors came along to support the event unlike people from other clubs that are quite close to us
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Jack Sparrow
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Posted: 20 Sep 11 at 7:57am |
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Salcombe Y.C... If you happen to be sailing in Salcombe week with a wife a baby in tow, and you think it might be nice to have drink after the racing the the club. Don't bother, unless you want to spend a little more time away from your family. As I was aggressively told, with a wagging finger pointing to a sign. Absolutely NO children in the yacht club. It's out side for you. What a great club, I always make a bee line for there bar to spend my cash now, every time I'm down that way.
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G.R.F.
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Posted: 19 Sep 11 at 11:22pm |
Yeah but he didn't he just stuck two fingers up (to indicate race 2 I guess) I had to ask the 2nd question as he walked away.
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rogue
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Posted: 19 Sep 11 at 10:18pm |
what do you expect Roger- surrounded by some of the best coastline this god-forsaken island has to offer and they choose to sail on a pond!!! stay off the moor...  Edited by rogue - 19 Sep 11 at 10:20pm |
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rogerd
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Posted: 19 Sep 11 at 9:51pm |
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Grumpf at least someone spoke to you. I went to a lake club in the SW and I was ignored by just about everyone there. I have since learnt that I wasnt the only one who is treated this way.
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G.R.F.
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Posted: 19 Sep 11 at 3:11pm |
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Don't get me wrong, I dare say there are some 'reasonable' types in fact my guess they were all out on the water putting on what looked like a great event (I'm really p1ssed that I missed it, light shifty winds and tide, I'd have loved that, instead I had the bread knife and daughter in tow they were equally impressed - not), it's just the whole way the sailing world is so often disinterested in the interested observer or passer by, as far as he was concerned I was just some punter on a day trip asking stupid questions and I didn't press the point, knowing what a pain in the neck it can be if you are a recorder or whatever it was they were doing up that ladder.(I do hope they were recorders and not just spectators)
However it don't alter the fact they come across wrong and they are now No 2 in my Snooty Clubs list, I don't even get that sort of crap from Hayling, or Parkstone where every stupid question I might have asked has at least been answered civilly and the person happy to spend a little of his her time of day with the query. Broadstairs are a bunch of handicap bandits anyway imv so that incident did nothing to enamour me any further with them.. They shall forthwith be the butt of malicious jokes about sail snobs any time I feel like it.. They're worse than Whitstabewle and that's going some..  Edited by G.R.F. - 19 Sep 11 at 3:16pm |
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furtive
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Posted: 19 Sep 11 at 2:23pm |
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I've got to stand up for Broadstairs and say that on the several occassions I've been there for open meetings they've come across as one of the friendliest and least 'snooty' sailing clubs out there. A bit quirky compared to some bigger clubs, but I think you have to expect that if you venture into darkest Kent.
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